thank you for answering my message. Hereunder extract from Ordener genealogy: Pierre, born in 1775 (your ancestor) son of Pierre, born 1740 son of Nicolas, born 1714 son of Jean, born 1688 son of Paul and Cunigunda Klein son of Nicolas?
Michel, the general, born in 1755 (my ancestor) son of Jean, born 1709 son of Michel, born 1683 son of Paul and Cunigunda Klein
I have strictly no information about any Nicholas Ordener, except dates for your ancestor, born 1714,dead 1766,married 1740 with Anna-Maria Friedrich.
Can you send me copy of the article you wrote about. Thank you Paul de Molliens