Esther Landel (my aunt) is one of the 4 Ortner sisters. Her husband was Elmer Landel. They had no children. There were 7 children in the Chris Ortner family. The four sisters and 3 brothers. Two of the brothers died in childhood. Charles Ortner, the surviving brother, was married and had 2 children, Gloria and Charles Franklin. Neither of these children had children. Lillian had 2 sons, Gilbert and Donald. Neither were married. Hilda Ortner Ulm married to Lorin G. Ulm had 2 children. Carolyn and Lorin O. Lorin died at the age of 18. I,Carolyn, and my 4 children and 3 grandchildren are the only survivors of the Chris and Caroline family.
I would be interested in anything you can add to this side of my family.