Re: Frank, Killian & John OTT - Hess, Darmstadt, Germany > KY> IN
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Re: Frank, Killian & John OTT - Hess, Darmstadt, Germany > KY> IN
JOHN OTT 6/25/06
Thanks, Jack, for the info.When I went back to look at the post from this past May that you replied to, I realized half a page of information I added, on my thoughts about these folks, was missing.I’m not sure if I just didn’t copy and paste, or what happened, but as the post stands with just the outline info, it looks confusing.
What I had originally thought I had included was that I wanted to know if anyone though these three OTT boys were brothers or cousins and if there was any additional documentation to support that theory.
I suspected they might be related strictly from the census information.In 1850 Kenton County, Kentucky, we have our branch at visit 323:
Frank OTT28Farmer born in Germany
Rosa 29 born in Germany
Philip 2 born in Kentucky
Peter 1/12 born in Kentucky
In the same county we have at visit 228:
Killian OTT26Shoemakerborn in Germany
Kandie (sp?)24 “
Christopher2 Kentucky
Catherine2/12 “
James Parker 24
Killian and family are living in the home of Ann Oliver (sp?) age 50, born in Pennsylvania, with three children, Thomas Oliver – 19, John Oliver – 12, and Anna Oliver – 11.I don’t know if these folks are related or not.
Frank and Killian are the only two OTT men in this county.They *could* be from two completely different OTT families that just happened to buy land and settle so close to each other, or they could be brothers or cousins that came together to Kenton Co, Kentucky to farm.
I’m going to a reunion this summer with OTT descendants from the Frank & Rosa OTT branch, so I’m hoping someone will be able to shed some light on this relationship. Were they or were they not related?
The other connection that I found was between Killian and John OTT in the 1860 census.
By 1860 Frank has moved his family to Georgetown, Floyd County, Indiana, which is where the family remains to this day, but Kilian moved to Pendleton County, Kentucky and he is listed at age 35 with his wife Mary and 6 children, Christopher 12, Catharine 9, Elizabeth 8, Mary 6, Frances 4, Barbara 1, and with John OTT, age 37.
Both John and Kilian OTT are listed as being born in “Wittenberg” Germany, Prussia.Kilian is a farmer and John is engaged in farm work.There is no relationship listed, but since they are living together and share the same last name, I am ASSUMING they are related, either brother’s or cousins.
In 1870 Pendleton County, Kentucky, Killian and John are listed living next door to each other with their families.Killian is at visit 242 and John is at visit 243.Again, because of the same last name, and the fact that they have been living either with each other or next door to each other for a decade or longer, it leads me to believe that these two men were closely related, probably brothers.
In 1870 Kilian’s family is listed:
Kilian OTT 46, Farmer born in “Wurtumburg” Europe
Annie 46 born in what looks like “Casup”
Chris 21 born in KY
Mary 16 “
Frances 13 “
Barbra 12 “
Annie 10 “
Kilian jr. 7 “
Rosa 5 “
John OTT 4? (unreadable) Farmer“Wurtumburg”
Lizzie 32 Prussia
Mary10 Ohio
Barbara 6 Kentucky
George4 “
Annie 2 “
Neena OTT62born in Kentucky – (Who is this? Is she John & Killian’s mom and they wrote her birth place wrong?)
John & Killian named 3 of their daughters with the same names. Frank OTT's kids share two common names with John & Killian, Rosa OTT & John OTT.
How Frank OTT, who is now in Floyd County, Indiana, fits into the picture is more of a mystery, but again, I’m hoping to get some additional info from his direct descendants this summer – July 2006.
Wish me luck and I’ll post what I find out when I return.
Thanks again for all the wonderful OTT info everyone has collected and posted.It has been a tremendous help.I know how much hard work goes into these endeavors.
Ingrid Keltz
Miami, FL
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Re: Frank, Killian & John OTT - Hess, Darmstadt, Germany > KY> IN
Richard Klee 10/14/09