I do believe that you fall victim to your own arrogance.You are such a flamer!
The name Petain is closer in spelling and pronounciation to my name than Parton.Petain was the greatest French name of this century, having led the army in WWI and Vichy France in WWII.Maybe I am a Petain, maybe not, but you need not declare that there is no such name in France.
There is no need for one root of the name Partain in one land and from one family.That is the original fallacy of "gen-forums."
Partain is not a french name indeed!You should spend more time familiarizing yourself with real french surnames.There are a large host of linguistically similar surnames, if one allows for minor variations, such as recognized by groups, be it fricatives, glottals, etc.My wife recently spent the better part of a week in southwest France, and our name was locally recognized as French.I have lived off and on in Europe, and commonly I have been asked about the name being French.Which doesn't prove that it is, but...sure seems interesting..
I am actually not related to your string of ancestors.Sorry to disappoint.Nor am I related to any famous country western stars.My familt has both convicted felons and preachers, milltown workers and Harvard PhDs.We are just an ordinary strain of Partains.
I really think that there need not be this monotonous requirement that we all be Partons.You may well be, but that need have little to do with me. Would love to see that I could accurately determine that my Partain is your Partain, but I see no logical need that they are.
Case in point, from my earlier posting.There are two main Scottish Jordans, one from the South, near England, which were the Jiordans, and the other are from north Scotland, the Jardines.Both are often renamed as Jordan in America.I have Jordans from both sides.
Simply because I stand up for other people and their hopes is not an evil proposition, as you would seem to believe.In fact, excitement and interest in family legends is why most people get involved in this hobby anyways.You seem quite the school marm, ready to break any heart in the pursuit of your truth.
I also have numerous degrees, and have been a professor, and speak more than a handful of languages.I also like to apply serious research methods to my inqueries...and I have done so for the State Department and various financial newspapers.So I feel confident that my research skills are up to par too.
As for my lack of detail and your claim that I am obviously new to this, I do not feel the need to totally share my research with strangers unless there seems to exist a good ground for family ties.In my line of work, which is law, I have learned not to share data which might compromise oneself and one's security over the internet.I am very happy to suggest lines of research, and to offer encouragement.I see nothing wrong with that, do you?
My family, on both sides, has actually kept very good records in their bibles which we have largely corroborated, so we didn't have the great angst that some seem to have in finding original files.
The Partain thread is the only part of the family line that 'disappears' into smoke before 1850 or so.Everything else we have tracked down to 'originals'.
We have evaluated the Parton theory, and it never matches up in the right places and times.
My family of Partains comes out of a little village in the old French territory, occupied and settled by mostly, guess what, French people!Maybe we are descended from Anglo traders in the area, but hey, what about Occam's Razor?
I know all about the Partin at Jamestown, and we are not connected.I know about the various Parton/an/in clans about, and have never found a connection.
Please don't assert what you don't know for a fact.I have no reason to believe anything in the way of a Parton connection for my family, despite lots of research.If other Partains feel similarly, then I encourage them to think out alternative possibilities.
Maybe we morphed out the ground fresh, like Adam, maybe our ancestor was an escaped criminal who borrowed a neighbor's name but retained the family lore.Maybe he was a jewish peddler who needed to obscur his roots.I am open to anything that will pan out in research.In the meantime, I refuse to dash any theory before it is properly tried.
And maybe the old indian story didn't pan out for some folks.And maybe some people have been misled by family stories.But how dare you insult them like you did, but claiming that it was basically all hogwash.Maybe the french line was the mother's side, or maybe it was like I suggested above.How do you know my family?You don't, and that is the truth.
Maybe your family is a Parton,and lucky for you, you have all your stories.Some of us mayhave different stories, so don't even try to extinguish our stories.
You don't even know if I am white or black.Maybe my Partain doesn't even figure in your scheme. Actually, I received offers for minority scholarships, but heck if I'll tell you for what minority, as you already know that I must be lilly white English Parton.
I want to thank the other Partains who wrote me emails off the forum, confirming our mutual thoughts.Sorry that evidently this forum has a couple of strong personalities who drive people into offline replies.
Wish well to all who try!