I have never implied that all Parton/Partain/Parten/Partin/etc. families come from the immigrant Robertwho came to Jamestown in 1609.The vast majority of those whom I have researched seem to have done so.There is also a New England line at least that is separate; one in PA I think that went to MO.James Parton, the famous biographer, came straight from England.I don't know if he had descendants or not.So I am sure there are a few different lines.
I just find it strange to argue or even speculate on the country of one's ancestry, especially argue over it, if one is stuck at 1850.When each of us gets to our immigrant if we ever do, then we can worry about the country of origin.On the particular line of my children, I am presently stuck at the born ca 1770s in VA.I may or may not in my lifetime get to the immigrant with proof.Should that immigrant be Robert then it would appear that they come from around London, England.There were Partons, whatever spelling, there all the way back to like the 1500s, I believe, and many were merchants.
I do know my children's lines from having spent thousands of hours on them for thepast 24 years.That or the fact that Dolly is their aunt does not make this line any more special than your line or anyone's else's line.I just feel that I can address this particular line (my children's direct line) with more authority.
My own mother was put in an orphanage at age 2.Fifty years later, I found her family.That family means a lot to me.I only married into the Parton family.I have many families of my own that to me personally are more meaningful.My maternal surnames include: Walker, Drinnon, Purkeypile, Purkey, Day, Trent, Greene, Odom, Seals, Elrod, Weathers, ...
One of my great-great-grandfather's was sentenced to hang in Haywood Co. NC for rape.I have his trial transcript.He was granted a retrial, but he did not stick around for it.He escaped jail dressed as a woman, and that is how my maiden name came to Sevier Co. TN (He had to cross the state line fast!).I work his line with as much pride as I do the Parton/Partain/Parten/Partin lines.Based on the evidence, I don't think he was guilty, but I will never know for sure. I view this Noland ancestor with respect because he was my ancestor too. I have genforum queries trying to find the Milner surname back on his tree.I haven't had to do as mcuh work on his family because of the excellent research and book by J. Lynn Noland of Waynesville, NC.
I have one ancestor who fought the first half of the Civil War for the Confederacy, and the second half for the Union.When he was 70, he divorced his wife, and married a lady by whom he already had some children.He fathered children until he was 78.When I started genealogy in 1977, he still had two daughters alive.After the Civil War, he stole a bag of meal and was about to be arrested.He went from NC to MO to visit relatives until that blew over, and then returned to NC.In his 80s, he became a Baptist minister, and I have a copy of a letter in his own handwriting in which he was obtaining a minister for his church. Helived to be 96, leaving a nice death certificate with his parent's names which was very helpful.By the way, his parents were not married to each other until their 50s and /or 60s, if at all.The dad was the real dad, he had signed bastardy bonds for the children in Burke Co. NC.I am just as proud of this Marcus family as I am of Parton/various spellings.
My tree is full of many ruffians and infamous people.I do not think that I am better than anyone else because I was married to Dolly's brother.I have worked 24 years on that family, and do know it, just as I know many other families.We are proud of Dolly for what she has done to help her family and her home county.We are proud of her literacy program.But we would be just as proud to work on our Parton/Partain/Parten/Partin/Pardon/Parting/etc. name if we had no famous person, if we had a rogue or a murderer, or just good old common everyday people, etc.We actually do have some wildpeople in this family too.
I would just like to see people work on the facts of their families.Legends are fun and to be considered and sometimes prove true, but often legends are part truth with some blurring over time.
I can not believe that you were offended by my e-mail.You started out with a blanket statement, or so I thought, that "Partain" is French.There may very well be some "Partain" family in France somewhere, or even in America, but I mainly address Gabriel Partain of NC, Cocke Co, TN, and Arkansas when I say that of him that is not true.At the present time, his family appears, and I do stress the word "appears" to be of English origin to the 1500s.It could very well be that they were somewhere else before being in England at that time.
I share on genforums not to "flame" as you say.Look at the Dec. 24 or 25 huge entry that I put on Hughs (name is Hughs, not Hugh, originally) Owen Partin/Parton/Parten/etc.That is a totally different line than my children's family.The fact that I am divorced might explain why I had time on my hands at Christmas to share genealogy with others.That is what I try to do.Most of the info on the Smokykin site on Parton is based on my research that I placed in the Sevier TN Heritage Book.Why did Iplace the information out to the public when I could have written or published some book and tried to sell it?I just wanted to share as much as I could with others in hopes of helping them because I always feared that when I died my research would die with me, and much would go unshared.I am sorry if I offended anyone.I am the most open person on earth to accepting factual information that proves me wrong.I love to make new discoveries and correct any mistakes.I love tracing my ancestors and my children's ancestors and helping others trace theirs. I don't worry about countries of origin until I get to the immigrants.Some lines I will never get to the immigrant because of illegitimacy or lack of records.Most of us have that problem somewhere on our trees.I have many, many files on many Parton/Partain/Parten/Partin/etc. families and lines that I need to get on the internet to try to help others with lines that are different from my children's lines.I hate to not try to do that as time allows me, but I also hate to take my time to do this for people to only think that I am showboating or being arrogant.
I am not trying nor do I intend to contine to have some time of war with you.I only get to place entries on genforum occassionally.I try to post if I think that I can offer anything that will help someone.I start back teaching the 17th, and then my opportunities to even do that become more limited.I have promised a person on genforum information on Hightower/Parton connection for sometime and must find the time to hunt that out and post it.
It would not matter to me what race, ethnic group, country, moral character,socio-economic level, or whatever I find and prove on my children's ancestors on my side or their dad's.They were their ancestors and nothing can change that.Can you not tell that I am a genealogist, not just a Dolly Parton fan?I often mention Dolly's connection simply because many people want to know if they are related to her and how closely.I have entries on many genforums for lines that have nothing to do with the Parton/various spelling names: Noland,Milner, Jones, Cable, McFall(s), Walker, Weathers, etc..... I work on over 100 families.The Parton/Partain/Parten/Partin/etc. is only one of those families.I would not have offended any ofyou people for anything in the world.