Re: Regarding John Penne (1500 to ?)
If this John Penne is related to any descending Penns is speculation, as nothing has been proven.However, here's my notes on the matter:
The Penn family is of English origin.The theory is that the name Penn signified head, or conical top, as in a range of hills, as "Penchrise" - pen or skelf.the name is very ancient in England, dating not only earlier than the Norman but earlier than the Saxon Conquest.It is found in Gloucester, Wilts, and Oxford and in these localities.Burk in his "General Armory, " records Arms for the family.The Penns, as shown in ancient charters and other documentary evidence, are from Thomas Penn, living about the year 896, when Alfred reigned over England.Wills of Penns, as early as 1383 have been found.
In Stokes Poges (Church) erected 1045 there is the "Penn Pew" and also "Entrance to the Penn Vault," and a "hatchment" bearing their coat of arms with their motto "Dum Clarum recturn teneane."In a personal letter to Mrs. N.H. Hairston (whose mother was Eliza Penn the Reverend Arthur T. Barnett, Rector of the Stoke Poges Church (1912) writes of Penn records in 1050 - and Penn Arms in Stoke Poges 1227.This record descends to Captain Giles Penn 1590, and to William Penn of Minety England, 1591, who married Margaret Rastall, of England.
The Penn motto on the coat of arms 'Dum Clarum Rectum Teneam' translates as 'May I keep
the line of right as well as of glory.'Mottos are believed to have originated as battle cries in medieval times.
The name of Penn is very ancient and dates from the Saxon conquest. It signifies Top, Crest or Summit and is frequently found in Wales and Cornwall.
"By Pol, Tre and Pen
You shall know the Cornish men".- Brigadier Hogg
The Penn line as shown herein goes back to John Penne of Myntie as the ancestor of the Virginia Penns. Although documented proof of the Penn family line as shown in the charts and biographies goes back only to John Penn Sr. who married Lucy Granville, the many sources cited agree that the line back to John Penne follows family tradition. It has not only been accepted by many family members for over a century but also by many historians who have studied the Penn family. Most agree that this is a logical assumption and should be accepted until someone disproves it.
John Penne was born Ca. 1500, married Ca. 1522.He lived in Myntie Gloucestershire County England. Two sons of John Penne were William Penn and Roger Penn, who was living in Brinksworth, England in the 1600's. John Penne died Ca. 1560. There were a multitude of Penns in England before John Penne. A De la Penne came with William the Conqueror and received a land grant in Buckinghamshire for his contribution to the Conquest. Court records of Canterbury show a John Penne as early as 1381.
"Meaning of the the name of Penn: Old English: pen or enclosure. Welsh: top; crest; summit; point or promontory and is of Celtic origin.I understand that there are no records for the Penns earlier than 1500, could the following be the reason?The Penns are scions of the Royal House of Tudor. John Tudor lived on top of a hill and was called John Penmunnith, or John on top of the hill. He moved to Ireland and acquired a lot of property and wealth and on returning some years later to Wales he was called Mr. Penne and this has been the name ever since. "- Mrs. Harry Bennett, 3544 N. Mariposa St., Fresno, Ca 93726 from 'The Penn Pals" Vol. 1 Issue 3 May 1974
John Penne was a decendant of King Edward III - (Gendex)