Re: Bill Polk DNA - John Polk & Eleanor Shelby, Who?
First, thank you for sending me a copy of that chart.I have never seen this before, and I now see why.I have 149 images of the widow's pension file for Philopena (Helms) Polk (which I secured from FOOTNOTE, now FILE3), as well as the actual paper file that I secured from the National Archives in 1992.I went through every image and through the whole paper file and that family chart is not in either.I found the spot in both files where it appears it should be, but all that was there was the image/photocopy of what appeared to be a folded piece of paper and designated as family chart.So, two clerks missed this in the photocopying of the file, and in the imaging of the file, but apparently when the person who did the selected images at Ancestry.com, they opened the piece of paper or whatever it was, and imaged it, thus it appears at Ancestry.com, but not in the images/file I have.Great find!Even though there is nothing new there that I can see, we now know the source of the family information that is throughout the pension file (typed and written)and the date of such info is early, 1798.
Now as to this question of who of the children of Capt. Charles Polk was alive and not when George W. Polk filed for his mother's pension benefits.I think that George Washington Polk must not have been concerned with his 1/2 sibings all that much, thinking they were all dead.I found a few instances in the file where he (George W.) believes all his siblings are dead; and a few instances where people attesting believe siblings are dead, except for Martha Washington Polk.I know for fact she was alive in 1860, disappears after about 1863.It does appear that all his full siblings were dead before he applied, except Martha.However, back to the children of the first wife, Mary Clark or Clarck - There are three of these children that I know were alive after 1860, these three being Thomas J. Polk, who d. Sep-Oct 1864, in Lowndes Co., MS.; Michael Polk, who d. 8 Jan 1863, in Tallapoosa Co., AL., and the previously discussed Mary (Polk) Hutchinson/Hutchison, who appears to be alive in the early to mid 1870s, Obion Co., TN.
I am not sure at all how much credibility should be assigned to any of this information about the living children of Capt. Charles, because all these children (of the first wife) left NC. many years before George W. Polk filed for his mother's pension, and I don't think these people filing affidavits knew for sure, and I don't think the court/justice of the peace (whoever) were concerned about these childre of the first wife, but mostly any surviving siblings of the second wife.Now it seems to me that any surviving children of Charles Polk should share in any survivors benefits, but George W. Polk was the administrator for his mother, not for his 1/2 siblings.I am wondering if they would have qualified had they known and filed for survivors benefits, or if the only way children would be entitled would be through a widow (their mother) of the Rev War soldier.I just do not know the rules that applied.
But regardless, I go back to just how much credibility one can assign to these children being alive or dead, based on what is in this file, this when there is other evidence showing some of the children are still living after George W. Polk applied in the 1850s.
Again thanks, way to go to dig this out and I await any further discussion of any of this.Bill Polk, Kansas City, MO.