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IMPORTANT: POSCHET HISTORY from France

By Michael Allison February 01, 2000 at 10:35:05

This is lengthy, but worth the time for those who are sincerely interested in discovering the the facts about the origins of Francis Posey.

Regardless of the fact that the names of his parents are not yet proved, and that we should stick to that task before attempting to move on to even earlier generations, the following POSCHET material will be of much interest to some of you.

It is taken from a rather startling expose of the alleged noble POSCHET ancestry. The book is entitled "Les Polchet, Poschet ou Poschet, une Dynastie de Maitres de Forges de L'entre-Sambre-et-Meuse". Publisher: Genealogicum Belgicum, Brussells, Belgium, 1983.

Obviously, this book was written in French, but fortunately, a wealthy cousin of mine paid a French professor dearly to translate all relevant chapters. Afterward, the French-born wife of another genealogist cousin of mine read both the originals and the translation and agreed with the quality and accuracy of the translation. The book is available to the public at the LDS Library in Salt Lake City. Possibly you can order this on microfilm. If any of you read French, jump on this! If not, find someone who does! You'll be a bit surprised by it all.

To avoid going into lengthy details here in this limited space, suffice it to say that this work builds a solid case against the possibility that the alleged noble Poschet ancestry has a grain of truth in it.

Unbeknownst to many, that illustrious POSCHET pedigree many of us embrace is not so ancient at all. Check the French records! It was not established until 1749 by PIERRE JOSEPH POSCHET who presented records in attempt to get a letter patent of nobility. You see, there was NO noble lineage before 1749 and Pierre's effort to become a nobleman. Somehow he pulled it off.On July 9, 1749, Sir Andre-Francois Jauerens, Knight, Counselor to Her Imperial Majesty the Queen, Executor of the position of King of Arms, approved the application for a title, in spite of the fact that even then the Poschet family's alleged noble ancestry was PROTESTED as invalid (in 1749!). But the deal went through in spite of arguments against it. Apparently, the French government was besieged at that time with wealthy families wanting titles of nobility and they were churning out titles left and right.

But not everyone fell for the scam. On May 28, 1665, Mr. Can den Leene, Knight, Councilor to His Majesty the King and his first King-at-Arms, reported that he was not able to authenticate the Poschet's claim of nobility. He stated that he had not found any verified, legal titles in the Poschet's history. Eighty years later, the French genealogist, Bernard Cherin, who later became appointed as historian to His Majesty the King, wrote a letter on January 9, 1746 stating that the documents used to establish the noble lineage were, in so many words, fakes that had been given the appearance of authentic documents.

That's just skimming the surface. There's much more. All evidence coming out of France states "Fraud". I've seen the case they built in this book and I've convinced. I think that we fell hook line and sinker for a scam -- just like the French government did in 1749! I would like to be proved wrong if someone can do it. I don't care where Francis Posey came from, as long as I get to know!



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