This is, in effect, a letter I wrote to L.C. Cobb regarding the probability that those descended from the Ransdells of the Ky. cos. of Henry, Shelby, Franklin, Scott, and Owen are from one or the other of the two sons of Wharton Ransdell and Ursula Presley who settled in Fauquier Co., Va.Those two sons were Wharton Jr., who m. Margaret Barrow and William Ransdell, who m. Mary Chilton.Here is what I know about them.The ancestry is interesting enough to make you give some effort to establishing your descent from them.
My own expertise is not in the Kentucky generations of this part of the Ransdell family, but rather in that of William, the cousin of Wharton Jr. and William.This William, husband of Ann Petty, came to Mercer Co., Ky. with, it appears, all his children.
But here is some data on the Henry Co., etc. Ransdells:
The "Stop Repeating Mistakes" posting on the genforum is rather long, as you'll see, but it gives some evidence that people might want to use after absorbing it.
Suffice it to say, the first certain ancestor is Edward Ransdell who d. in 1724 in Westmoreland Co.For our puposes he had only two sons.Wharton moved to the part of Prince Wm. Co. that became Fauquier Co. in 1759, and that is where Wharton died.John, the other son, moved to Orange Co. with his Thornton brothers-in-law.The Fauquier line produced two sons who sent children to Ky., mainly to Henry, Shelby, Franklin, Scott, and Owen cos.A good many of their Chilton associates and relatives also moved to Henry Co., as did a Turner family that was with them in Fauquier.
John Ransdell had a number of children, most of whom came to Mercer Co., Ky. (Harrodsburg), settling near the line with the cos of Washington and Anderson.As far as I have been able to discover, William is the only one of the sons of John who produced a significant number of descendants, and many of them remain there to this day.My wife is desc. from Wm.'s daughter Patsy (Martha), who m. John Poulter back in Orange Co.John and his brother Wm. (of Jefferson Co., Ky.) and his Kelly and Sims sisters all came to Ky and settled in Mercer (except Wm.).Ironically, another branch of the same Chilton family as went to Henry settled in Mercer.These Chiltons came from Culpeper, though.
Now, a little about Ursula Presley, Wharton's first wife (forget his two children by the second wife).She was the dau. of Elizabeth Thompson and Peter Presley.Presleys were rather prominent in NOrthumberland Co. in colonial times.Elizabeth's mother was Ursula Bysshe, the wife of Richard Thompson (marriage license, Kent Is., Md., 24 June 1641, as given in Early Settlers of Maryland).Ursula's father was William Bysshe, and hermother was Margaret James, sister of Sir Roger James and daughter of Roger James (1565-1596) and Sarah Smith.After Roger's death (at only 31), Ursula's grandmother Sarah m. Thomas Claiborne and became the mother of Richard Claiborne, who in his maturity became secretary of the colony of Va.So one could say that Claiborne was Ursula's "half uncle." Besides being secretary of the colony of Va., Claiborne was also a sort of employee of an English trading company Cloberry and Co.He set up a post for trading with Indians on Kent Island, now in Md., not then settled.When Lord Baltimore brought his settlers over in 1634, Kent Is. (which Claiborne had named for his home county in England) became a part of Md., which Claiborne resisted furiously.When the Puritans took over in England, Claiborne was of a mind to repossess Kent Is., but Cloberry and Co. sent over the Evelyn expedition to try to settle matters, which eventually went against Claiborne.
Anyway, a lot of those who had sided with Claiborne and Richard Thompson, his asst. and husband of his relative (and your ancestor?), were either chased out of Md. or left of their own accord.Among those who settled first in Md. and then went to Va. were the Monroes of the President's family and the Pope ancestors of Geo. Washington.Others who lost favor were sort of associated with the Ransdells:the Sturmans and Youells.
Back in England Ursula had anuncle who was knighted and became Sir Richard James.(The James family name was one taken in England after this family had migrated from somewhere in the Low Countries (Holland, Belgium of today).Ursula Bysshe had a brother Roger who had a daughter Helen who married John Shelley in 1792.They were to become the ancestors of the poet Percy Bysshe Shelley.The Bysshe ancestry can be taken back pretty far, some of it going into English nobility.I found a chart from an English publication in the Library of Congress that takes the Bysshe family back to a man living in the 14th century.According to this chart, William Bysshe, Ursula's father, was the son of third cousins Mercy Bysshe of Burstowe and John Bysshe of Worth.Again from this chart, an ancestor in the 15th century, John Bysshe of Burstowe, county Surrey, married Joan, daughter of Sir Oliuevus (Oliverus?) la Zouche.The Zouch family were members of the English nobility.
After the death of her first husband, Richard Thompson, Ursula Bysshe married John Mottrom of Northumberland Co. and after his death, George Colclough.It has been mistakenly said that she married after Colclough's death to Isaac Allerton, the only colonial descendant of a Mayflower family to move from Mass. to Va.That is a mistake (which one finds in a history of the Washington family).Ursula died before Colclough, and his widow who married Isaac Allerton was Elizabeth Willoughby.
The two sons of Wharton Ransdell and Ursula Presley who settled in Fauquier Co. were Wm. (m. Mary Chilton) and Wharton who m. Margaret Barrow.It remains to be seen which one you belong to.I have a great deal of the Chilton ancestry and a little of the Barrow.(I should also tell you that Ursula Presley had been married to a Daniel Neale before she married Wharton Ransdell and that she had several Neale children by him, some of whose descendants also settled in Kentucky.)
That should keep you for a while.What I'm not really able to do, though, is make your connection with the early generations.I am pretty thoroughly informed about those in Mercer Co., but not the rest, about whom I have only snitches here and there.