Re: Jacob and Fannie Schmidt Rediger-Illinoi
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Re: Jacob and Fannie Schmidt Rediger-Illinoi
11/03/00
Are you aware of the following form Hermann Guth on the Rediger family.The following is from a book by Hermann Guth – Amish Mennonites in Germany - pages 223 and 224.
See my comments in [JFM – Note] Also here or there a spelling error might have happened by my scanner Letters with an umlaut didn’t copy well. For example Gungerich is spelled with an Umlaut over the u. In the US it is usually spelled Gingerich or Guengrich.
THE REIDIGERS
(A Provisional Genealogy)l
0Johannes Reutiger, in 1720 in Canton Bern in Switzerland, married to Barbara Jaggi. Children: I - 3.
1 Sebastian, born in 1720 in Boltigen in Switzerland. In 1739 with Bergtold on the Unterer Klosterhof near Hombach. From 1763 with his brothers on the Ottenweierhof near Ichenheim in Baden. First marriage to Susanne Dettweiler (children: 11 - 14). Second marriage to Anna Lederer (children: 15 - 19c). (Because of the differences in the children's ages, these data must be considered suspect.) See my comments in [JFM – Note: It seems to me the 15 should be Susanne child if the age is correct. Anna then must have been a lot younger than Sebastian because the rest of children seem to have been born when Sebastian was in his 50s or these aren’t his children. However children 17, 18, 19 could have been older than 16 since we don’t know their birth dates.]
11 Josef, born on 7 Sept. 1753. Died in 1819 at the age of 65 at the Ottenweierhof. Married to Katharina Hunzinger. He is miller at the Schutterzelleriniihle (daughter: 111). From 1791 on the Ottenweierhof. Second marriage to Magdalena Hunzinger (she was born in 1750 and died in 1830 on the Ottenweierhof).
III Katharina, born in 1783. Marries Jakob Ackermann in 1814. They lived in
Josefsburg near Ingolstadt.
12 Barbara, married to Christian Schertz.
13 Johannes, is at the Spitalhof near Kehl in 1791. Family unknown.
14 Benjamin, born on 15 Mar. 1758. Died in 1835 at the age of 76, a widower, at the Ottenweierhof. Family unknown.
15 Sebastian, born in 1763. Took over the Ottenweierhof in 1791. Died there in 1836. Married to Magdalena Gungerich, daughter of Christian Gungerich and Anna Holly in Steinseltz in Alsace. Children: 151 - 158 and:
Susanne (1820-1821).
151 Magdalena, born in 1793 on the Ottenweierhof. In 1813 marries Johannes Stalter, son of Christian Stalter and Magdalena Hauter of the Bickenaschbacherhof. 152 Jakobea, married to Johannes Konig. They emigrated to the USA.
153 Anna, born in 1797 on the Ottenweierhof. In 1818 marries Christian Hauter, son of Johannes Hauter and Barbara Oesch of the K6nigreicherhof.
154 Barbara, born in 1802 on the Ottenweierhof. In 1822 marries Josef Stalter of Monbijou: he was a widower, 36 years old at the time.
155 Johannes, born in 1806. In 1828 marries Elisabeth Stalter, daughter of Josef Stalter of Monbijou.
156 Katharina, in 1830 marries Josef Stalter, son of Josef Stalter of Monbijou. 157 Elisabeth, in 1835 marries Johannes Stalter, son of Josef Stalter of Monbijou. 158 Christian, born on 2 Sept. 18 IS. Died in 1837 on the Ottenweierhof.
Jakob, born on 6 Mar. 1773 on the Ottenweierhof. Died there in 1.843. From 1818 until 1837 on the estate- (Gut) Scheibenhardt near Karlsruhe. Married to Jakobine Gungrich, daughter of Christian Giingerich and Anna Holly of Steinseltz. Children: 161 - 168.IL 7
Also see Chapter 5. H.G.page 50
224 Genealogy 24: The Reidigers
161 Magdalena, born in 1796 on the Ottenweierhof. In 1815 marries Johannes Zimmermann, son of Christian Zimmermann and Elisabeth K6nig of Michelfeld in Alsace.
162 Daniel, is with his father at the estate Scheibenhardt in 1818. Married to Elisabeth Eyer.
163 Jakob, born in 1806 on the Ottenweierhof. Married to Magdalena Schrag of the Heimbrunnerhof near K6nigsbach. In 1818 is with his father on the estate Scheibenhardt. After 1818 and until 1868 on the Ottenweierhof. Then in Merzhausen. From there he emigrated to the USA. Children:
Elisabeth (1837). Christian (1840).
Katharina (1843). Josef (1845).
Benjamin (1848). Johannes (1854).
164 Katharina, married to Christian Grieser. Children on the Oftenweierhof:_ -Barbara (1839). [JFM Note md.John Stauffer and is my wife's great grandparents.]
Daniel (1840).
165Barbara, born in 1815. Died in 1836.
166Anna, in 1834 marries Jakob Stahly, son of Jakob Stahly and Elisabeth Brennemann on the estate (Hoj) Obertraysa near Darmstadt.
167 Elisabeth, born on 28 Feb. 1820 at Scheibenhardt. Died on 8 Feb. 19 1 0. In 1845 marries Jakob Egli, son of Heinrich Egli and Jakobine Ehrismann of the Ldrchenhof.
168 Maria, born on 24 Mar. 1824. In 1850 marries Christian Egli, son of Heinrich Egli and Jakobine Ehrismann of the Larchenhof. In 1850 went to Ried near Vaihingen. 17 Maria.
18 Andreas, is with his brother Jakob at the estate Scheibenhardt in 1817. Married to Annette Ringenberg from Imling in Lorraine. 19 Magdalena, has illegitimate children: Jakobea (1822-1823).
Magdalena (1826-1855). Jakob (1833).
19a Katharina, married to Christian Ringenberg from Imling.
19b Jakobine,maniedtoJohannesEyer,sonofChristianEyerandVerenaJordy of the Johannisthalerhof near Remchingen.
19c Anna, married to an Egli, Otigheim.
2 Johannes, born in 1721 in Boltigen in Switzerland. Died in 1786 at the age of 65 on the Ottenweierhof. Wife and children unknown.
3Bartholomaus, dates of birth and death unknown. Supposedly went to Hanover in 1786.
Not yet identified: Magdalena Reidiger, married to Josef Dettweiler of the Spitalhof near Kork in Baden. She was probably born about 1755.
Source: Ortssippenbuch (local family register) in Ichenheim.
Information from: Hermann Reidiger, Grossteinhausermuhle, Germany.
Page 50 same book, You must check the original for spellings.
On several pages of the parish register of the Protestant congregation at K6nigsbach there are references to other Mennonite families. Johannes Kempf of the Neumatte estate near Diemeringen is married to Barbara Eyer, daughter of Rudolf Eyer, and co-leaseholder on the Johannisthalerhof in 1793. Christian Wolber is married to Katharina Eyer on the Johannisthalerhof. And Jakob Egli of the Oberm6nsheimerhof marries Jakobine Eyer of the Johannisthalerhof in 1818. His grandfather Jakob Egli was a representative of the congregation at the assembly of elders in Essingen in 1779.
Jakob Reidiger is named on the estate (Gut) Gottesaue in 1718; he belongs to the Reidiger family on the Ottenweier estate. Ottenweier near Ichenheim was leased by Sebastian Reidiger and his two brothers from 1763 on. In 1739, as a member of the Reformed church, Sebastian Reidiger had worked on the Klosterhof in Hornbach for the Mennonite Bergdold and had come to like the faith and way of life of his employer. Despite admonition from the official church, he joined the Mennonites. According to a decision of the High Consistory in Zweibracken, he was banished from that territory.
Sebastian Reidiger later married the daughter of the Mennonite Dettweiley and founded a large Mennonite family that remained on the Ottenweierhof for several generations. Intermarried with the Giingerich, Unzicker, Schertz, Stalter, Eyer, Konig, Ringenberg, Hauter, Zimmermann, Schrag, Grieser, Stahly, and Egly families, the Reidigers spread out at first to the Scheibenhardt estate and the Spitalhof estate, later also to Alsace and the USA. Another branch of the family returned to Zweibriicken.
Additional Mennonite names in the parish register of Kiinigsbach are Ehrismann, Burki, Schdffer, Holly, Dauscher/Teuscher, and Zimmermann.
According to an entry in dossier 61/1292 of the Rentkammer (board of revenue) in the Generallandesarchiv, Jakob Konig was a sub-lease- holder (Hintersasse) on the estate Katharinenthal and went to America in 1744. His place is taken by Jakob Haas, for whom all guarantors are "Anabaptists."
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Re: Jacob and Fannie Schmidt Rediger-Illinoi
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