That sounds pretty good. How accurate is Yancey's book? Is it well trusted? Do you have any kids for James and Amanda? This is what I currently have that I am trying to tie into. Colleen Liller M Richard Osburn(myself) Harold Liller M Donna Davy Vance Davy M Verda Riggleman James Riggleman(Bn 1 Jul 1901) M Amanda Moyer Perry Riggleman(Born 20 Jul 1865) M Anna ? Do these dates fit what you have? If so then we have a connection. Thank you for your response. Looking forward to the answer on this one.