Re: Ancestors of Isaac Rundell
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Re: Ancestors of Isaac Rundell
John Thornbury 12/19/11
To John Thornbury:
The answer to your first question is no.
Next, I am not certain if you want information just as to Isaac, or as to his ancestors, as I do, or as to his descendents, siblings of your wife's ancestor, Charles J. Rundell, my Great Grand Uncle, and their descendents, or all of the above.
My information from various sources as to Charles J. is as follows:
Name:Charles J Rundell
Birth:15 May 1835
State:OH*
Death:aft. 1880 **
State:Lucas County, OH?
Marriage:To Elizabet A.
Dateabt. 1855
State:OH
Spouse:Elizabeth A. Dewhurst
Birth:April 1838
State:OH
Death:abt. 1925
State:Lucas Co., OH
Children:Louis D. Rundell, b. abt. 1859, OH
d.abt. 1935, OH
Edgar L. Rundell, b. abt. 1861, OH
d.abt. 1940, IN
Belle Rundell,b. Jun 1875,OH
d.abt. 1945, OH
I did not have the Dewhurst maiden name until now.
*The 1850 Census records show his parents in Owego, Tioga Co., NY, which doesn't seem to fit his OH birth place in 1835, unless they went to OH after 1833, when their first child, Mary A. was born in NY, and then returned to NY by 1850.
** Charles is shown in the 1880 Lucas County, OH, Census Records but not in the 1900 Lucas County, OH, Census Records, whereas Elizabeth or Eliza, age 62, living with Edgar, is shown as a widow in said 1900 records.
Note: For some reason, the 1850 census records for Tioga Co., NY, (See: below) do not show Charles, who would have been age 14 or 15, living with Isaac and Sarah, although they do show his sisters, Eliza A., b. Feb 1837, m. Horace D. Ellenwood, and Julia A., b. 1840, m. John C. Fleming.By 1860, the Isaac Rundell family was located near Marietta, OH, and Charles is not listed with the Isaac Rundell household. Rather, Charles is shown in the 1860 census as living with Elizabeth A. in Crestline, Jackson Township, Crawford Co., Oh, and listed as a R.R. conductor.
I am at a dead end going back in time from Isaac in the NY, PA border area near Tioga County, NY, and Bradford and Tioga Counties, PA; but I did find evidence of Randell/Rundle families from England having located in the Long Island,NY, and Southwestern Connecticut areas in the 1600-1700s.I suspect that the upstate NY/PA Rundells may stem from these Randell/Rundles, having drifted West to upstate NY/PA from CT over the period from about 1700 to 1800.There seem to have been a number of Rundells in the NY/PA border area mentioned above.
There is a book concerning the family titled: " Rundle, Rundel, Randle, Randol, Randall, Rundall, Rundell, Runnell Ancestry of Long Island and Greenwich, 1667-1992, Decorah, IA: Anundsen Publ. Co., 1991, by George Ardel Rundall,which is available at the Genealogical Forum of Oregon in Portland - Family Tree Genealogy www.gfo.org.I hope to review it as proof of my theory and to hopefully identify some of the missing Rundells in between CT and the NY/PA border area.
As to Sarah Bartholomew, undoubtedly a Great Grandmother of your wife, there is a record, "The Bartholomew Family" published in the 1880s, going back to at least the early 1500s in England. You can look at this book on Heritage Quest, generally available on your local library's website.
Some information on the subject matter that I have on file is set forth below.
Maybe you can take the information and figure out how to tie our Isaac Rundell to an "Emigrant" Rudell, undoubtedly from England.I would be interested in any information that you have or find in the future.
Yours truly,
Bob Glenn
Records on file
1. 1850 Census Record
Name: Isaac Rundell
Residence: Owego, Tioga, New York
Age: 49 years
Calculated Birth Year: 1801
Birthplace: New York
Gender: Male
Race (original):
Race (expanded):
Death Month:
Death Year:
Film Number: 444320
Digital GS Number: 4203572
Image Number: 00464
Line Number: 36
Dwelling House Number: 951
Family Number: 984
Marital Status:
Free or Slave:
Household Gender Age
Isaac RundellM 49y
Sally RundellF 37y
George RhodesM 24y
Mary Rhodes*F 17y
Elisa RundellF 13y
Julia RundellF 11y
*Note: It appears that Mary A. Rundell, b. NY, 3 Mar 1833, may have been married more than once.Later records show her married to an Abraham Bennett and living in Logansport, IN.
2.1860 Census Record
Year: 1860State: OhioCounty: WashingtonPost Office: Dunham
Sheet No: 110BReel No: M653-1048Division: Dunham TownshipPage No: 3
Enumerated on: July 27, 1860by: Wm. S. Judd
Reference: 27July1860; Wm. S. Judd; PO Dunham
RundellIsaac|58 M W | Farmer|1000521 | New York|| R534 |
RundellSarah|48 F W ||| New York|| R534 |
RundellMartin|18 M W | Farmer|| Ohio|X| R534 |
RundellSarah|14 F W ||| Ohio|X| R534 |
RundellEllen|11 F W ||| Ohio|X| R534 |
RundellLaura|8 F W ||| Ohio|| R534 |
MaxwellGeorge|1 M W ||| Ohio
3. 1870 Census Record
1870 United States Federal Census about Isac Rundal
Name: Isac Rundal
Birth Year: abt 1802
Age in 1870: 68
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Home in 1870: Fort Wayne Ward 8, Allen, Indiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:NameAge
Isac Rundal68
Sara Rundal58
EllenRundal20
Lora Rundal18
4.1880 Census Record
United States Census, 1880 for Sarah Rundell
Name: Sarah Rundell
Residence: Fort Wayne, Allen, Indiana
Birthdate: 1813
Birthplace: New York, United States
Relationship to Head: Mother-in-law
Spouse's Name:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace: New Hampshire, United States
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace: New York, United States
Race or Color (Expanded): White
Ethnicity (Standardized): American
Gender: Female
Martial Status: Single
Age (Expanded): 67 years
Occupation:
NARA Film Number: T9-0265
Page: 762
Page Character: C
Entry Number: 345
Film number: 1254265
HouseholdNameGenderAge
John GlennM36
Laura GlennF27
Robert R.GlennM4
Annie GlennF5M
Sarah RundellF67
5.From Cyndie's List:
ID: I43511
Name: Isaac RUNDELL 1
Sex: M
Reference Number: 43511
Marriage 1 Sarah BARTHOLOMEW
Married: 1 JAN 1832 1
Children
Eliza A RUNDELL
Julia A RUNDELL
Sarah J RUNDELL
Ellen C RUNDELL
Laura M RUNDELL
George W RUNDELL
Mary A RUNDELL b: 3 MAR 1833
Charles J RUNDELL b: 15 MAY 1835
Jane RUNDELL b: 19 JUN 1842
Martin L RUNDELL b: 24 MAY 1844
Sources:
Title: 2233602.ged
Repository:
Media: Other
Text: Date of Import: Jun 24, 2003
6.From Rootsweb showing some descendents of Isaac Rundell:
(a).Entries: 145787 Updated: 2008-12-25 07:19:57 UTC (Thu) Contact: Kenneth Michael Pomeroy
Pomeroy and LaPorte Family Tree
ID: I026821
Name: Isaac Rundell 1
Sex: M
Birth: WFT Est 1785-1819 1
Death: WFT Est 1846-1903 1
Marriage 1 Sarah Bartholomew b: WFT Est 1804-1821
Married: 1 JAN 1832 1
Children
Eliza A. Rundell b: WFT Est 1819-1858
Julia A. Rundell b: WFT Est 1819-1858
Sarah J. Rundell b: WFT Est 1819-1858
Ellen C. Rundell b: WFT Est 1819-1858
Laura M. Rundell b: WFT Est 1819-1858
George W. Rundell b: WFT Est 1819-1858
Mary A. Rundell b: 3 MAR 1833
Charles J. Rundell b: 15 MAY 1835
Jane Rundell b: 19 JUN 1842
Martin L. Rundell b: 24 MAY 1844
Sources:
Title: World Family Tree Vol. 50, Ed. 1
Author: Genealogy.com, LLC
Publication: Release date: February 2000
Note: Customer pedigree.
Repository:
Media: Family Archive CD
Page: Tree #0152
Text: Date of Import: 26 Sep 2000
(b).Campbell, Coffman, Humphrey, Agnew, Draper, Hitchcock, Sheldon, Herrman, Shirkey, Duttenhoffer, Metzdorf, Liebfarth, Mallinger
Entries: 46440 Updated: 2004-11-17 14:03:19 UTC (Wed) Contact: Cindy Campbell
1 Isaac RUNDELL
+ Sarah BARTHOLOMEW
2 Eliza A RUNDELL
+ H D ELLENWOOD
3 Rodney ELLENWOOD
3 Mabel ELLENWOOD
3 Clifton ELLENWOOD
3 Claude ELLENWOOD
3 Warren ELLENWOOD
3 Webster ELLENWOOD
3 Bertie ELLENWOOD
2 Julia A RUNDELL
+ John C FLEMING
3 Ida FLEMING
3 Ada FLEMING
3 Gretta FLEMING
3 Dolla FLEMING
3 Walter FLEMING
2 Sarah J RUNDELL
+ A L RICHMOND
2 Ellen C RUNDELL
+ F J KNOLL
3 Sadie KNOLL
3 Alfred KNOLL
3 Clement KNOLL
3 Frank KNOLL
3 Martin KNOLL
3 Raymond KNOLL
2 Laura M RUNDELL
+ John GLEN
3 Rundell GLEN
3 Annie GLEN
2 George W RUNDELL
2 Mary A RUNDELL b: 3 MAR 1833
+ Abraham BENNETT
2 Charles J RUNDELL b: 15 MAY 1835
2 Jane RUNDELL b: 19 JUN 1842
2 Martin L RUNDELL b: 24 MAY 1844
7.From Alba Cemetery, Canton Township, Bradford County, PA
RANDALL, L. D. 6/26/1849 – 1910
RANDALL, Amanda wife of David RANDALL 6/15/18 – 10/9/1901
RANDALL, Charlotte wife of David RANDALL 9/16/1824 – 10/25/1881
RUNDELL, Hannah PRATT 6/15/1820 – 3/27/1905
RUNDELL, Arthur L.
RUNDELL, B.J. D. 3/3/1851 age 31 yr 10 m & 3 d.
RUNDALL, Lots wife of Isaac D. Oct 1855 31 yr 8 m & 5 d
RUNDALL, Betsy wife of Isaac
8.From CT births, 1650-1750
Historical Records
1-15 of 15 results for >Name: Rundall, Event: Any, Place: United States, Event Range: 1650-1750
Connecticut Births and Christenings, 1649-1906
Rebecca Rundall
birth: 28 Mar 1729 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1729 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Jacob Rundall, Rebecca
Ann Rundall
birth: 28 Oct 1739 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1739 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Samuell Rundall, Hannah
Jacob Rundall
birth: 02 Aug 1731 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1731 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Jacob Rundall, Rebecca
Abigail Rundall
birth: 23 May 1735 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1735 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Joseph Rundall
Elizabeth Rundall
birth: 04 Oct 1733 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1733 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Joseph Rundall, Mindwell
Ezera Rundall
birth: 10 Jan 1725 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1725 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Samuell Rundall, Hannah
Rundall
birth: 28 Mar 1729 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1729 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Jacob Rundall, Rebecca
Nathaniell Rundall
birth: 01 May 1728 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1728 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Samuell Rundall, Hannah
Rebeccah Rundall
birth: 26 Feb 1718 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1718 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Samuell Rundall, Hannah
Reuben Rundall
birth: 14 Jul 1735 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1735 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Samuell Rundall, Hannah
Eme Or Amy Rundall
birth: 22 Oct 1730 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1730 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: William Rundall, Sarah
Samuell Rundall
birth: 23 Sep 1720 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1720 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Samuell Rundall, Hannah
Mindwell Rundall
birth: 06 Feb 1731 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1731 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Joseph Rundall, Mindwell
Hanah Rundall
birth: 16 Apr 1716 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1716 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Samuell Rundall, Hannah
Joseph Rundall
birth: 09 Jun 1730 —GREENWICH TWP, FAIRFIELD, CONNETICUT
residence: 1730 —Conn, Connecticut
parents: Joseph Rundall, Mindwell
9.CT Rundells:
Children of Sarah KNAPP and William RUNDLE are:
+ 587 i. Amy RUNDELL was born 22 Oct 1730 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT, and died Unknown.
588 ii. Charles RUNDLE was born 1 Jun 1728 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT.
+ 589 iii. Elizabeth RUNDLE was born 22 Jun 1723 in Greenwich, Fairfield, Conn.
590 iv. William RUNDLE was born 22 Jun 1733 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT.
591 v. Sarah RUNDLE was born 10 Aug 1726 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT.
10.Long Island and CT Rundells. Is William Rundle the "Emigrant"?
William Rundle (b. 1647, d. 1714)
William Rundle (son of John A Randoll and Ann Goldstone) was born 1647 in Tonbridge, Co. Kent, England, and died 1714 in Horseneck (West Greenwich), CT. He married Abigail Tyler on 03 Mar 1689 in Greenwich, Fairfield, Co. Ct., daughter of William Tyler and Abigail Terrill.
Notes for William Rundle:
ID: I2931
Name: WILLIAM RUNDLE , SR.
Sex: M
Birth: 1647 in Tonbridge, Co. Kent, England
Baptism: 2-APR-1647 Tonbridge, Co. Kent, England 1
Death: 1714 in Horseneck (West Greenwich), CT 2
Burial: Horseneck (West Greenwich), CT
Emigration: bef 7-MAY-1674 3
Occupation: Weaver, Farmer
Note: William is not found in English records after 1649 and probably came to America with his Gladstone relatives. He was in Greenwich by at least 1674 and all of his children were born there. (Rundle Family Genealogy) That he was the only child of John and Ann Randoll is based on the burial register of his mother.
Father: JOHN A. RANDOLL b: CA 1615 in Tonbridge, Co. Kent, England
Mother: ANN GOLDSTONE b: 1615-1620 in Tonbridge, Co. Kent, England
Marriage 1 Hannah EDWARDS b: CA 1652 in East Hampton, L.I., NY
Married: JAN-1670
Children
John RUNDLE b: 1673 in Stamford, Fairfield Co., CT
Marriage 2 ABIGAIL MILLS b: CA 1658 in Jamaica, Long Island, NY
Married: 2-FEB-1675 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT 1
Children
SARAH RUNDLE b: 1677/8 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Mary RUNDLE b: 1679 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Abigail RUNDLE b: 1681 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Deborah RUNDLE b: 1683 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Samuel RUNDLE b: NOV-1685 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Patience RUNDLE b: 1687 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
William RUNDLE , Jr. b: CA 1689 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Marriage 3 ABIGAIL TYLER b: 1664 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Married: 3-MAR-1689 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT 1
Children
Hannah RUNDLE b: 16-JUL-1690 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
ABRAHAM RUNDLE b: 1691-94 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Elizabeth RUNDLE b: CA 1695 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Isaac RUNDLE b: abt 1697 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Jacob RUNDLE b: 1699 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Joseph RUNDLE b: 1701/2 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Sources:
Abbrev: Rundall, George A. Rundle Family Genealogy. 1991.
Note:
Rundall, George A. Rundle Family Genealogy. 1991.
Abbrev: Will of William Rundle, dated 22 Oct 1714, probated, 16 Jan 1714/15. Probate
Note:
Will of William Rundle, dated 22 Oct 1714, probated, 16 Jan 1714/15. Probate file #5348 on file in the Connecticut State Library.
Abbrev: Date of earliest documentation contained in a land record. See Rundle Gen. for
Note:
Date of earliest documentation contained in a land record. See Rundle Gen. for other land records pertaining to William - 1674-1715.587 i. Amy RUNDELL was born 22 Oct 1730 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT, and died Unknown.
588 ii. Charles RUNDLE was born 1 Jun 1728 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT.
589 iii. Elizabeth RUNDLE was born 22 Jun 1723 in Greenwich, Fairfield, Conn.
590 iv. William RUNDLE was born 22 Jun 1733 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT.
Abigail Tyler (b. 1664, d. 1721)
Abigail Tyler (daughter of William Tyler and Abigail Terrill) was born 1664 in Greenwich Village (Fairfield) Connecticut Colony, and died 1721 in Horseneck (West Greenwich), CT. She married William Rundle on 03 Mar 1689 in Greenwich, Fairfield, Co. Ct., son of John A Randoll and Ann Goldstone.
Notes for Abigail Tyler:
ID: I2941
Name: ABIGAIL TYLER
Sex: F
Birth: 1664 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Baptism: 19-SEP-1669 Milford, CT 1
Death: 1721 in Horseneck (West Greenwich), CT 2
Note: Abigail met and married William Rundle at Greenwich. She is thought to have been visiting her Palmer relatives at that time as her parents were known to have been residing in Jamaica, L.I. then. Sources: New Haven Families, by Donald L. Jacobus. (1922) Genealogical Dictionary, by Savage, Vol. IV, p. 256. New England Marriages Prior to 1700 by Clarence Torrey. Families of Ancient New Haven, by D.L. Jacobus, Vol. Vii, p. 1922-3.
Father: WILLIAM TYLER b: CA 1632
Mother: ABIGAIL TERRILL b: 1642 in Milford, CT
Marriage 1 WILLIAM RUNDLE , SR. b: 1647 in Tonbridge, Co. Kent, England
Married: 3-MAR-1689 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT 2
Children
Hannah RUNDLE b: 16-JUL-1690 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
ABRAHAM RUNDLE b: 1691-94 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Elizabeth RUNDLE b: CA 1695 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Isaac RUNDLE b: abt 1697 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Jacob RUNDLE b: 1699 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Joseph RUNDLE b: 1701/2 in Greenwich, Fairfield Co., CT
Sources:
Abbrev: Rundle Family Genealogy; by George A. Rundall (1991) et al.
Note:
Rundle Family Genealogy; by George A. Rundall (1991) et al. Baptismal Records, First Congregational Church, Milford, Hartford County, CT.
Abbrev: Rundall, George A. Rundle Family Genealogy. 1991.
Note:
Rundall, George A. Rundle Family Genealogy. 1991.
591 v. Sarah RUNDLE was born 10 Aug 1726 in Greenwich, Fairfield, CT.
11.NY Rundells:
FROM American Ancestry, vol. 2, p. 107:
Samuel Rundell (res: Austerlitz, NY, b. 1766 CT / d. 1850) -> Reuben Rundell (res: Austerlitz, NY / b. 1800 / d. 9 Aug 1873) + Almira Spencer (b. abt 1803 / d. 31 Jan 1882) -> John Rundell (res: Spencertown, NY / b. 1826) m. 1848 to Lucinda E. Oles -> Dan W. Rundell (res: Austerlitz, NY / b. 1860) m. 1882 to Estella Livingston) -> Charles L. Rundell (res: Spencertown, Columbia Co., NY)
_____ Rundell (killed in Rev War) -> Isaac Rundell (res: Dutchess Co. / b. 1776 / d. 1839) + Mary Youmans -> Martin Rundell (res: Hudson / b. 1815) m. 1844 to Catharine Thorn -> Jesse Rundell (res: Hudson / b. 1853) m. 1884 to Lottie Phillips -> Frank M. Rundell (res: Columbia Co., NY)
12.Other "Isaac" Rundells in PA?:
(i).ISAAC RUNDELL is a son of Abraham and Mary A. Rundell. He was born September 1st 1823, in Bradford county, Pa., and began farming at the age of 19. He settled in Union about 1847. He has been thrice married; first in 1853, to Louisa, daughter of John and Louisa Baldwin, of Cattaraugus county, N.Y. She died in 1855, leaving one child, Delia. In 1856 he married Betsey, a sister of his first wife; she died in 1860, leaving a son, Jabez; and he married Mrs. Hannah Rundell, whose children were Fanny, Wilmot, Jefferson, and Mary.
(ii).Isaac Rundell located in Canton township about 1806. He died in 1818 and his wife, Margaret, and Samuel Griffin were appointed administrators of his estate.
13.Rundell books
The book Rundle, 1796-1974 / Rundle, Donald Worth
Descendants of James Rundell (1802-1880) / Littlefield, Barbara Jeanne Grim, 1945-
Family charts of Rundberg-Liden / Rundberg, Ray A. (Ray Arnold), 1910-
The genealogy of Elijah Rundell and descendants / Hayden, Onabelle Rundell
Genealogy of the Rundle and allied families / Edgerly, Dorthea Roach, 1922-
Jared Rundle (Rundell) Jr. of Sullivan County, Indiana : his ancestors and descendants / Edgerly, Dorthea Roach, 1922-
The Rundle, Rundel, Randle, Randol, Randall, Rundall, Rundell, Runnell ancestry of Long Island and Greenwich, 1667-1992 / Rundall, George Ardel, 1924-
A Rundlett-Randlett Genealogy : mainly descendants of Charles Runlett of Exeter, N. H., 1652?-1709 / Odiorne, Joseph Milton
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Re: Ancestors of Isaac Rundell
John Thornbury 12/20/11
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Re: Ancestors of Isaac Rundell
Robert R. Glenn 12/20/11
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Re: Ancestors of Isaac Rundell