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Descendants of John and Margaret (Ruckdeschel)Schoerner.
John Schoerner married Margaret Ruckdeschel she wasborn in 1842John Schoerner was a "Peddler" in Germanyhis job was going house to house selling various household items. He traveled on foot from town to town and sometimes was
gone for a week from his family. He died and was buried in Germany. Then in 1888 Margaret Left Sparneck Germany with the whole family and came to America, an attendant at Ellis island in NYwanted to sendthe Schoerner
family to Wisconsin but after a debate the Schoerner family was sent to Clinton Massachusetts. Margaret lived in Clinton for many years then moved to Fitchburg
Ma. where she died on April 5th1908 and is buried in the Forest Hill Cemetery on a street called " Palm Ave."
Children ofJohn Schoerner and Margaret Ruckdeschel:
John Schoerner the 1sta.k.a. "Big John Schoerner"b. March ,1896 d. December 7th 1940
John Schoerner the 2nd a.k.a. "Little John Schoerner" b.1871 d. 1949
Margaret Schoerner the 1stborn. February 3rd1874.died.August 17th 1942
Sophie Schoerner b. ___________1877 d._________1960
Margaret Schoerner the 2nd b. _________1880 d. ________1920
and another Child Heinrich Schoerner died as a child and is assumed to be buried with his Father in Sparneck, Germany.
John Schoerner (1st) born in Sparneck Germany he came to American in 1885.
He married Margaretha Voedisch and in 1890 he moved to Fitchburg Mass had
six Children; Emma Schoerner, Ella Schoerner, Herbert Schoerner, Edwin Schoerner,
Ferdinand Schoerner, and Felix Schoerner. Felix Schoerner died of diphtheria
he was 18 months old . MargarethaVoedisch born in 1872 and died on July
14th 1904. John Schoerner (the first) then got remarried to Louise A. Webber
and had one Child: John W. Schoerner born July 10th1906. Emma B. Schoerner
Mother died when she was 1 year and 4 months old, Margaretha Voedisch Schoerner
ask her oldest sister Katherine Voedisch Sammett (Husband was John Sammett)
to take care of Emma. Emma lived with them until they died. [ I would imagine
that John Schoerner didn’t like this idea but he did respect it, I assume
because there’s nothing to suggest otherwise]Johnand Louise Schoerner
live in Fitchburg Ma .and laterJohn in his old age they moved to Winchendon
Ma to live with his son Ferdinand Schoerner . John the 1st died at Fitchburg,
Burbank Hospital at the age of 71 years 8 months and 3 days old. Cause of
death was "Cerebral Hemorrhage with Left Hemiplegia, Decubitus, general
arterio sclerosis" (Source John Schoerner’s Death Certificate issued by the
town of Winchendon Mass) John & Margaret areburied in the Forest Hill Cemetery
on a street called " Palm Ave."Note: This information came from Emma Schoerner
who told Margaret Kraft thatShe (Emma) had a Half brother John he live
and died in Fitchburg Massachusetts. This is now a confirmed fact.Exact
information of date of birth and death by John E. Friedrich throughthe
Social Security Death Index. And John W. Schoerner’s Death Certificate.Louise
A. Schoerner may havemoved to Winchendon Ma to live with John’sson Ferdinand
Schoerner but I can’t prove it there seems to be a blank spot in the Schoerner’s
memory of her perhaps John and Louise’s marriage didn’t go over well with the
family and after John died they just blocked her out; mind you this is a
theory. This theory is substantiated by the fact that John Schoerner the
1st death certificate makes no mention of her existence or perhaps they divorced
; however, Louise died with the last name Schoerner andthat’s the name on
her grave stone in the Forest Hill Cemetery on a road called " Pansy path"
. The TRUTH is I just don’t know.
Louise A. (Webber) Schoerner died January 22nd 1946 in Fitchburg Mass.
John Schoerner (the second) born in Sparneck Germany he came to American
in 1888 and settle in Clinton Massachusetts
He married Mary Stoebel Born 1867 in Kassel. Hessen, Germany and had five
Children; George Schoerner, William Schoerner, Antoinette Schoerner, Gertrude
Schoerner, and Christine Schoerner.
Mary Stoebel is William Henry Stoebel’s Sister. Mary Stoebel Schoerner died:
1946 in Clinton, Mass.
Margaret Schoerner the first born in Sparneck Germany he came to American
in 1888 and settle in Clinton Mass she was 14 years old. She married William
H. Stoebelon September 7th 1893 ( Episcopal Church)and had four Children;
John David Stoebel, Flora Sophia Stoebel (died at age 9), Adam Stoebel,
and Margaret Christina Stoebel b. 1911. Still living. William H. Stoebel
was born in Kassel, Hessen, Germanyin August 30th 1869 and came to America
when he was 6 months old and settle in Clinton, Massachusetts.William H
Stoebel died: October, 1932 ( Obit of William H Stoebel: "William Henry Stoebel
of 19 Schley street passed away Saturday afternoon at the Massachusetts General
Hospital , following a brief illness of a brain tumor. He was 63 years of
age and had resided in Clinton since his childhood.Mr. Stoebel was a native
of Germany and came to this country when he was a small child. For many years
he worked as a finisher in the Lancaster Mills. He leaves his wife, Mrs.
Margaret Schoerner Stoebel and three child: John, Adam and Mrs. Margaret
Stoebel Kraft, and two grandchildren all of Clinton; one brother John Stoebel
of Cleveland, and two sisters; Mrs. Mary Stoebel Schoerner and Mrs. Lena
Stoebel Wagner of Clinton. Mr. Stoebel had membership in the Harugari, Turner
and Schiller societies and has held office in all three.
continued on page two)
His religious affiliation were with the German Congregational Church, Rev.
George Marquardt will conduct funeral services at the Stoebel home, 19 Schley
street, Tuesday afternoon. Interment will be in the family lot in Woodlawn
cemetery in charge of undertaker W.E.King". This Obituary from the Clinton
Item 1932)( Obituary of Margaret Schoerner 1stStoebel August 1942.:
" Mrs. Margaret (Schoerner 1st ) Stoebel, widow of William H. Stoebel, of
350 Water street, died at the Clinton Hospital, 10 O’clock last night, following
a long illness. She was born in Germany on February 18th 1874 the daughter
of the late John and Margaret Schoerner and came to the United States at
the age of 14 years, where she resided, ever since Mrs. Stoebel was a member
of the German Congregational Church and the ladies’ Society, of Clinton Schiller
Vereien. She is survived by a daughter Mrs. Margaret C. (Stoebel) Kraft,
wife of JosephH. Kraft, of 350 Water Street with whom she made her home:
by two sons Adam Stoebel of that address and John Stoebel of 98 Larch Street;
by four Grandchildren, all of Clinton:
by a Brother John Schoerner of 351 Water street of Clinton and by a sister
Sophia (Schoerner) Trautner of Providence R.I..
Funeral service’s will be conducted at the home of her daughter, Mrs. Joseph
H. Kraft , Thursdayafternoonat 2:30 o’clock. On that Thursday the Rev.
George W.Marquardt, Pastor of German Congregational Church, officiated
and the bearers were;
Ferdinand Schoerner; of Winchendon MA, Edwin Schoerner, and Herbert Schoerner
both of Fitchburg MA,George Schoerner of East Jaffery NH. Ferdinand Trautner
of Wellesley Hills MA. and Andrew J. Friedrich of Clinton. Son of Erhardt
Friedrich and Margaret Schoerner the 2nd Friedrich. Interment will be in
the family lot in Woodlawn cemetery and arrangements were in charge of Messrs.
King & Watson, Funeral directors, of 318 High Street in Clinton.Mrs. Margaret
(Schoerner 1st ) Stoebel’s Funeralhad a profusion offloral tributes many
of them of great beauty, was one of the largest seen at the local funeral
services for some time past.
Sophie Schoerner born in Sparneck Germany he came to American in 1888 she
was 10 years old, and settle in Clinton Mass. In 1890she moved to Fitchburg
Mass. She married Andrew Trautner born December 25th 1875 and died: November,
1962 and had two Children; Ferdinand Trautner born: Feb, 24 1909 anddied:
Jan, 1978, and Margaret Trautner.
Margaret Schoerner the second born in Sparneck Germany he came to American
in 1888 and settle in Clinton Mass. She was 8 years old. At age 18 She married
Erhardt Friedrich on October 22nd 1898 in Clinton, Ma. Erhardt was 24 years
oldMargaret and Erhardt both worked as "Weavers" (it’s probably how they
met)Erhardt who wasborn in May22nd1874 in Walpenreuth, Bavaria, Germany
he came to America in the late 1890’s.Erhardt and Margaret lived at 20 Spruce
Street Clinton MA. Erhardt became a Citizen of the United States on October
28th 1905 and registered to vote that same day .They had one child Andrew
James Friedrich. Born on July 9th 1909. After the birth of Andrew ,Erhardt
and Margaret moved to 376 Water Streetin Clinton Erhardt worked at the
"AMORY MILLS" on Green Street in Clinton. Erhardt’s Nick name was "MIKE"
he got this nick name because his Irish Immigrant co-workers couldn’t pronounce
his name so they called him Mike.1920 Margaret died.In 1923 Erhardt called
his brother Andrew in Germany and ask him to find him a wife. Andrew found
Barbara Fenzel a Farmers daughter. Erhardt marriedBarbara Fenzel (daughter
of George and BarbettaFenzel) she already had one child Gertrude Fenzel
she was a illegitimate child. Barbara came from "Reichenschwand Bie Hersbrucke,
Bavaria" She left on a Ship from Hamburg Germany to USA, withGertrude in
1923 Erhardt paid for the trip. Gertrude’s father is unknown and will remain
forever as such. Erhardt Adopted Gertrude after he married Barbara. Gertrude
name was legally changed to "Anna Gertrude Friedrich" in 1925 ;however, she
was still called Gertrude after the change.Erhardt Friedrich died on
August 16th 1946 of heart disease. Barbara (Fenzel) Friedrich was Born July
22nd1881 lived at 374 Water Street Clinton MA then moved to theClinton
housing projectApt. 20, 367 Water Street, Clinton Massachusetts until her
death onDecember 3rd1975. Barbara died of Uremia due to arterio sclerosis
heart disease she was 94 years old.Note: Barbara Friedrich is buried in
Woodlawn Cemetery in Clinton, MA. In the same plot asErhardt and Margaret
though her name is not on the stone.
Erhardt Friedrich died in 1946.
Children ofJohn Schoerner I and Margaret Voedisch
Emma B. Schoernerb. Feb, 15th1903 d. Mar, 26th1997
Ella Schoernerb. 1895 and d. December 24th 1980
Herbert J. Schoerner b. July, 27th1897 d. Feb, 1964
Edwin Schoerner b. 1894 d. April, 8th 1956
Ferdinand Schoerner b. May, 14th1892, d Jan, 1970
Felix Schoerner b.May, 1899 d. November 23rd 1900 of diphtheria he was
18 months old.
Children ofJohn Schoerner I and Louise A. Webberdied January 22nd 1946
John W. Schoerner b. July 10th1906 . d April 6th 1993.
Children ofJohn Schoerner II andMary Stoebel b. 1867 d. 1946
George Schoerner b. Nov, 1st 1891 d. July 1982
William Schoerner b. Jan, 16th 1894 d. Mar, 1981
Antoinette Schoerner b. August 3rd 1898 d. July, 1989
Gertrude Schoerner b. July 9th 1901d. August 21st1995
Christine Schoerner b. unknown d. unknown
Children ofWilliam Stoebel andMargaret Schoerner ( I ):
John David Stoebel b. 1894 d. 1976
Flora Sophia Stoebel b.1896 d. 1905 (died at age 9)
Adam Stoebel b. 7/29/1901 d. May,1978
Margaret Christina Stoebel b.11/8/1911 d.
Children ofAndrew Trautnerand Sophie Schoerner:
Ferdinand Trautner b. Feb, 24th 1909 d. Jan 1978
Margaret Trautner b. unknown d. unknown
Child: of Erhardt Friedrichand Margaret Schoener ( II ) was:
Andrew James Friedrichborn in Clinton, Mass. b.7/9/1909 d. June, 9th 1973
Child: of Erhardt Friedrich and Barbetta Fenzel was Anna Gertrude Friedrich.
b. in Reichenswand Bel Hersbrucke, BavariaJune29th 1913 d. April 14th
1994 in NJ.
Descendants of John Schoerner 1stpart 1.
Emma B. SchoernerOriginally live on 91 Forest Street in Fitchburg Mass,
and then moved to 30 Cedar Street, Fitchburg Mass. Where she died. She is
buried in Forest Hill CemeteryFitchburg MAon a Street called "Poppy
Path"No other information Emma never married
Ella Schoernerb. 1895 and d. 1980 married John F. Hennessyb. 1893 and
d. 1957 and had two Children; John F. Hennessy jr. b. Aug, 20 1909 d. Dec,
1971and Ralph Hennessy.No other information. John and Ella Hennessy Lived
in Pawtucket RI. And thereburied in Forest Hill CemeteryFitchburg MA.
on a Street called "Poppy Path".
Herbert Schoerner married Elizabeth Burgwinkle b. 7/31/ 1897 d. 10/ 8/1990
and had Daughter Norma Schoerner
Elizabeth M Schoerner moved toDe KalkIL.Just before she died so she
could be close to her Daughter. Herbert and Elizabeth Schoerner buried in
Woodlawn cemeteryNo other information.
Edwin Schoerner married Emma Selb b. 1896and had one Child; Richard W.
Schoerner,Emma (Selb) Schoerner died on July 10th1957 . (Edwin Schoerner’s
Obit from 1956) Edwin Schoerner62, 0f 197 Pratt Street, died suddenly from
a heart attack last evening in the yard of the Fitchburg public Works department,
where he had gone to obtain sand for his drive way in preparation for a Snow
Storm. Born in this city on Jan, 15th 1894 a son of John and Margaretha (Voedisch)
Schoerner, he had always resided here. He was employed as a sheet metal worker
at the H.E. Jennison Co. for more than 40 years. He was an attendant at the
Trinity Congregational Church. At the time of his death he was president
of Cintracht lodge, Order of Herman Gons and vice president of the Fitchburg
Turners of which he was a past president. He was a member of the German Sick
Benefit Society.Besides his wife, Mrs. Emma (Selb) Schoerner he is survived
by a son Richard W. of Baltimore MD; two grandchildren; two sisters Mrs.
John F. Hennessy of Pawtucket R.I. , and Miss Emma Schoerner of Fitchburg,
two brothers Herbert J of Fitchburg. and Ferdinand of Winchendon MA, and
a half brother John W. Schoerner of Fitchburg and several nieces and nephews.(
Fitchburg daily Sentinel April 9th 1956)Edwin and Emma areburied in
Forest Hill CemeteryFitchburgon a Street called "Palm Ave."No other
Ferdinand Schoerner married Frieda Mocekel b.11/1/1892d. April, 9th 1995
and had four Children;Doris Schoerner, Roger Schoerner, Eleanor Schoerner,
Beverly Elaine Schoerner b. January 3rd 1933 . Ferdinand and Frieda Schoerner
buried in Fitchburg cemeteryNo other information. Frieda Moeckel’s Parents
names(according Frieda’sDeath Certificate issued by the town of Winchendon
Massachusetts) Were "Oscar Edmund Lafortune the Father and Regina Williams
the Mother" both were born in Canada. Frieda (Mocekel) Schoerner died on
April, 9th 1985 of " Bilateral pneumonia Dementia, Alzheimers"
Both Ferdinand and Frieda died in Winchendon Mass, and are buried in the
"Forest Hill Cemetery" in Fitchburg Mass.
The plot stone reads " Schoerner / Hennessy" the plot is on a street called
" Poppy Path."
Felix Schoerner the 18 month old son of John and Margaret Schoerner died
of Dysentery at his home; 76 Frankfort Street
Fitchburg Mass, on Friday midnight he was sick for only two days. And the
second child two died of diphtheria within two days. (Fitchburg daily Sentinel
Saturday Nov. 24th 1900) he’sburied in Forest Hill CemeteryFitchburg cemetery
on a Street called "Palm Ave."No other information.
John W. Schoerner married Mabel E. Huntlive on 32 Wall Street Fitchburg
Mass where he Died. Mabel E. Schoerner b. December, 31st 1907 and Died in
Shirley Massachusetts on December 8th 1998. John died of arterio sclerosis
heart disease. John and Mabel are buried at St. Antony’s Cemetery in Shirley
Mass. I believe they had at least one child, but it’s name is unknown.
Descendants of John Schoerner II part 1
George Schoerner married Marion Brigham born in 1893 and died 1960 she was
from Maine they had one Child: Lucille Schoerner. George made his living
as aMechanic.When George died he was cremated and his ashes were spread
on the Schoerner/ Gaw stone in Woodlawn Cemetery in Clinton Mass. Marion
Schoerner is buried in the Schoerner/ Gaw stone lot as well but she is listed
there George isn’t but he is.(source Margaret Kraft and Norman Diegoli )
No other information
William Schoerner Live in West Yarmouth Massachusetts .and he’s buried in
Woodlawn Cemetery Clinton Mass
and he Never married.
Antoinette Schoerner married Nando Diegoli and had two Children; Eunice Diegoli
and Norman R. Diegoli.
Nando Diegoli b. 1894 d. 1979Antoinette (Schoerner) Diegolib. 1898 d.1989
Gertrude Schoerner married George Werner b. October 14th 1901 d. July 1969
and had two Children; Lorraine Werner and David Werner.
Christine Schoerner married Elwood Gaw he wasb. 8/1/1897, d. June 1973 and had Three Children:Marion Gaw b. may 3rd 1919,d. August 1981. Helen Gaw, and Vera Gaw.Christine (Schoerner) Gaw is buried in Woodlawn Cemetery Clinton
Mass, No date of birth or death on stone. Christine (Schoerner) Gaw died either
in 1923 or 1933 Elwood Gaw is one of the co-owners of that stone but Elwood is not buried there.(See S.S.D.I)