Re: another piece of the early Tarver puzzle
Your time and effort are appreciated.You have provided some specific citations which provide clues in the attempt to link Andrew Hipkin Tarver b. 1781 to the other possible Andrew Tarvers back in Northampton county, NC.
I noticed the marked thru certificate # 2797.However I cannot be certain of the reason for the change in date of the original BLM certificate as it appears to be originally issued in 1820 when John Q. Adams was President.The certificate number does not appear to have been marked thru and renumbered.I am not sure what to make of it.I don't understand why the certificate date was changed.
The land patents there in Conecuh county and Butler county were issued for land right on the county line between Conecuh and Butler.Benjamin H. Tarver, a brother to Andrew obtained land adjoining Andrew Tarver.One of the attempts I made with the BLM certificates was to underly the connection between Benjamin H. Tarver and Andrew Tarver as brothers and sons of The Elder/Reverend Jacob Tarver based upon the legal descriptions of the land from the certificates.
Let me know if you feel that the change from 1820 to 1830 on the BLM certificate # 2797 for Andrew Tarver in any way diminishes his identity as Andrew Hipkin Tarver, son of Jacob Tarver.The 1830 Newton county, Ga. census shows Andrew Hipkin Tarver there by 1830.Katherine , Andrew Hipkin Tarver's daughter, as you know,was married in Morgan county, Ga in 1826 and I surmised that she was living with her parents at the date of her marriage there in Morgan county, Ga. in 1826.
Now on to the analysis you have made of the land which seems to provide additional support for the connection of Jacob Tarver to Andrew Hipkin Tarver.I believe it is significant and presents another clue to the closeness of
Jacob Tarver and Samuel Tarver and their immediate descendents.Samuel, Jacob, and Absalom were all in old Dobbs county, NC in the late 1770's on into early 1780's.
Allow me to expound on this.As you may know, John Tarver who married Isabella E. Tarver, the daughter of Samuel B. Tarver and Charlotte Arnold Tarver Tarver (a daughter of John Tarver, another son of Old Andrew Hipkin Tarver I) ,was a son of Jacob Tarver b. 1777 who left his will in Hancock county, Ga. in 1830.
This Jacob Tarver b. 1777 was a son of Absalom Tarver, R.S. b. 1757 and stated by traditional sources to be a son of Jacob Tarver, the Elder/Reverend and Mary Tarver Tarver, daughter of Old Andrew Hipkin Tarver.
Absalom Tarver was most likely the oldest son of Jacob the Elder/Reverend as he was born 1757.If this can be proven to be absolutely true, it would mean he would be 23-24 years older than Andrew Hipkin Tarver b. 1781.In between is Jacob, Jr. b est about 1770.It seems to be a big age gap, but some traditional sources have indicated that Absalom was a son of Jacob the Elder/Reverend Tarver.
I am not sure of it and have been trying to obtain some type specific support for it.
The 1822 church records of Phillips Mill Baptist in Wilkes county, Ga. reflects verbatim, the following Tarver members: Jacob Tarver Senr. D., Jacob Tarver Junior Dis-,
Samuel Roe, D, ?Bedj.? Tarver, Jnr.-Dis-, Polly Tarver Dis-, and Mary Taraver D
(not sure what D, Dis mean exactly--some members have their name listed followed by DEAD and some listed without D or Dis or Dead)
It would appear from the membership role in 1822 that Jacob Tarver, Sr. and Mary Tarver Tarver were members near that time.This is the same year Jacob Tarver leaves his will in Wilkes county, Ga. But no mention of Mary is in his will.
The two daughters of Jacob the Elder/Reverend were Elizabeth who married a Pitman and Sally who married Samuel Rowe.Samuel Rowe is in Coffee county, Al , I believe at about the same time Andrew was in Conecuh/Butler counties.
And Mary Tarver, was a daughter of Old Andrew Hipkin Tarver I as well. It is convoluted to say the least.
And Samuel B. Tarver was a son of Samuel Tarver b. 1739 who must be the Samuel with Jacob and Absalom shown in the old Dobbs county, NC records around 1779-1780 or so.
It seems to provide a glimpse into the intermarrying of descendants of OLD Andrew Hipkin Tarver, with descendants of Jacob Tarver, Elder, Reverend.This Jacob most likely is a son of Old Thomas Tarver who left his will in 1782 in NHT county, NC naming only two sons, Jacob and Thomas.I have been and am still trying to connect the other som mentioned, Thomas Tarver and his descendants to my immediate line of Tarvers who came out of S. Carolina into Amite county, MS.
I appreciate all the information you have provided and will be glad to receive any information/discussion you would be willing to put forth.This is a work in process and any flaws in the rationale need to be flushed out along the way.Thanks for your insight and concerns in these areas.
David A. Tarver