Re: Elizabeth Turner ~ Captain William Utley

Ramel,

Be careful about putting too much faith in published sources and the research of others. These are all second/third-hand sources and most contain errors. You need to be using original records - wills, deeds, estate records, Bible records, etc.

You might like to read through these postings about the family of Augustus Balthasar Turner and Jasper Melchior Turner. http://genforum.genealogy.com/turner/messages/7968.htmlhttp://genforum.genealogy.com/turner/messages/7968.html There is no evidence that Simon Turner or his father William Turner came from that family. Just because Simon lived in the same general area does not mean he was kin to the other Turners who lived nearby.

Deed Book D-1, p. 214, 22 Sept. 1764
JAMES JONES of Johnston Co to SIMON TURNER of Johnston Co for 175 pounds, 463 acres BS Swift Ck. adj. BEASLEY, part of tract granted to JAMES JONES 29 Oct.
Wit:THEOP HUNTER, NEEDM BRYAN, THO AVERA.Signed JAMES(X)JONES, MARY(X) JONES.Jan Ct. 1765.

The deed matches this Granville grant
Jones, James1751, Oct. 29Acres 563, No. 773-A
Beginning at a gum on Swift Creek

I believe this James Jones was the son of Henry Jones Sr whose will was written 1733 Bertie Co. He lived in the part that became Northampton. His will wasn't recorded for 20+ years, but he was dead by 1739 when his son Henry Jones Jr began deeding the land of his father Henry Jones dec'd to his brothers. James Jones was one of them. Henry Jones Sr was also the father of Philip Jones who moved to Johnston Co where he was granted land near Swift Creek and Dutchman's Branch. His 1760 will left his land to brother James Jones and made James his extr.

Philip Jones was issued a warrant for land on Swift Creek in Johnston Co in 1752. This was the first of several records for land granted to Philip Jones on Swift Creek. James Jones received another grant in 1761 for land on Swift Creek.

Johnston County, North Carolina
In the Name of God Amen. This the ninth day March in the year of Christ One Thousand seven hundred and sixty. I Philip Jones of Johnston County in North Carolina being sick and weak in body but of perfect mind and memory do make and ordain this my last will and testament in the form and manner following - viz-
I desire that my funeral rights be celebrated and paid
I give my brother James Jones and to his heirs and assigns forever in consideration of divers debts that I stand justly indebted to him to the value of Eighty Pounds Virginia money all my lands and other estates real and personal with the following Limitations and Provisions First off any other debts arise against my estate or my _________ or __________ from or by my creditors or creditors wife children or any other persons being dissatisfied with this will may have election to inforce my said estate to be sold at public vendors and after the said Eighty pounds Virginia Money is paid or _______ the __________ of my Estate. First with regard to the charges may be applied to the payment of other debts ____ still ______
To be divided amongst my wife and children in the same proportion as are ___________ estate and I so hereby appoint my said Brother James Jones my only and sole executor of this my last will and testament.
Declaring this and no other to be my last will and testament I have hereunto set my hand and affix my seal the day year above written. Signed sealed and acknowledge in presence of
Jos. Lane Philip Jones (Seal)
G________

Johnston County. Present his ______ ______ (not all on page)
The within will was proven at October Court 1760
And ordered to be recorded when admitted to be recorded
And at same time James Jones Qualified as Executor. Text. Robt. Rains Cl.

This is the Philip Jones whose wife was Rebecca who m2 John Rench/Wrench. One of his sons was Capt Etheldred Jones who appeared so often in the records of families who lived in SE Wake Co.

Simon Turner's father William Turner seems to have come from Isle of Wight. These pages contain records that document the family well.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=adamoldham&id=I1484http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=adamoldham&id=I1484
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=adamoldham&id=I1523http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=adamoldham&id=I1523

Keep in mind that there is no PROOF that William Utley's wife Elizabeth was a Turner. That's been assumed because of the witnesses to the Utley wills.

As to the records of William Turner, the Bryan records seem to be of importance.

Follow the Bryan/Bryant names and the land called Snowfields:

From Colonial Bertie County, North Carolina, Deed Books A-H, 1720-1757, by Mary Best Bell, page 142:
Deed Book E, page 457, 8 May 1739. Pedegrove Salsberry and wife Sarah to Titus Moore (Moor), œ80 for 40 acres "at the Head of a Tract of land called Snowfield," adjoining WILLIAM TURNER, William Eason, Henry Slucrits (?Note Here: Above this ame in different ink at a much later date has been added the name Averitt). Witnesses: Charles Horne, Thomas Harrell. May Court 1739.
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From Colonial Bertie County, North Carolina, Deed Books A-H, 1720-1757, by Mary Best Bell, page 152:
Deed Book F, page 66, 11 Aug. 1739. Pedegrove Salsberry to Isaac Harrell, œ7 for 140 acres on north side Maratuck River adjoining Spivey's line, WILLIAM TURNER, John Moor, William Eason. Witnesses: Jacob Jernigan, John Moor, William Bryant. May Court 1740.
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From Colonial Bertie County, North Carolina, Deed Books A-H, 1720-1757, by Mary Best Bell, page 157:
Deed Book F, page 140, 11 Aug. 1740. William Gray to WILLIAM TURNER of Isle of Wight Co., VA, œ26 for 420 acres "in woods betwixt Keshy and Morrattock" being part of tract called Snowfield. By patent 30 March 1721. Adjoining Needham Bryant at Runaroy Path at Alligator Marsh. Witnesses: John Gray, James Watson. August Court 1740.
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From Colonial Bertie County, North Carolina, Deed Books A-H, 1720-1757, by Mary Best Bell, page 191:
Deed Book G, page 50, 10 Aug. 1747. WILLIAM TURNER and wife PATIENCE to MATTHEW TURNER, œ13 for 210 acres part of a tract of land called "Snowfields" granted to William Gray by patent bearing date 13 March 1721, adjoining Needham Bryan near Roonoroy Path. Witnesses: Needham Bryan, Henry Averet, Barnaby Bryan. August Court 1747.

The Morrotock was an early name for the Roanoke River. Needham Bryan's land called Snowfields is said to have been near Windsor.

Needham Bryan witnessed the 1733 Bertie Co will of Henry Jones Sr.
William Turner, James Turner, and Joseph Turner witnessed the 1767 Bertie Co will of Needham Bryan who named among others, wife Sarah and son William.
William Bryan witnessed the 1770 Bertie Co will of William Turner.

Needham Bryan's last wife Sarah is known to have been a widow Sarah Woodward. It's possible BUT NOT PROVABLE that she might have been the widow of Samuel Woodward who married the widow Mrs Sarah Purcell 8/2/1750 in Chowan Co and left his will in Chowan Co dated 13 Mar 1752, proven Apr Ct 1752. Sarah was possibly the widow of John Purcell prior to her marriage to Samuel Woodward. You're probably aware that the descendants of Christopher Woodward of Wake Co married into the Utleys of Wake Co. Christopher Woodward's line is believed (but not proven) to have descended from Samuel Woodward who moved with wife Elizabeth Hudson to Chowan Co. So Samuel Woodward d 1750 Chowan Co was probably a cousin of Christopher Woodward.

WILLS AND ADMINISTRATIONS OF ISLE OF WIGHT COUNTY, VIRGINIA, 1647-1800
Book 2
TURNER, JOHN: Nuncupative, as told to us by ye widow Tomlyn: Leg. son John plantation at Chuckatuck; sones James and John the plantation where John Coffer did live; son William the plantation on which Thomas Phillips lives; sons JOSEPH and Simon land on Boddie's Branch, adjoining Mr. Hardy and Edward Harris; granddaughter Anne Everrett. Son William Ex. Overseers: Edward Harris and Thomas Harris. D. March 25, 1705. R. June 9, 1705. Signed by Edward harris, John Johnson, Jr., Jenkins Dorman, William Westray and Mary Tomlyn. page 468

Notice that the sons named in this will agree perfectly with the witnesses to Needham Bryan's will. John Turner would seem to be the father of William Turner who moved from Isle of Wight to Bertie Co.

Nothing in this line of Turners is coinciding with the line that Augustus Balthasar Turner and Jasper Melchior Turner seem to have come from.

Several years ago I posted the earliest records I've been able to find for William Utley. You'll find them at http://genforum.genealogy.com/utley/messages/67.htmlhttp://genforum.genealogy.com/utley/messages/67.html