Re: WISEHEART, Australia 2000 aus
Just noticed your message posted last August.
We've been tracing the Wisehearts in Ireland for some time.The earliest we've found is a James Wiseheart in Dublin in 1703.In 1703 James became a member of the Taylor's Guild in Dublin under a 1667 Act of Parliament which allowed craftsmen trained outside Ireland to become members of the Guild.Guild Members also became Freemen of the City of Dublin.This suggests to us that James was older than 23 years (the age at which most apprentices completed their trade) and probably from Scotland (as most migrants to Ireland at this time were from Scotland and Wiseheart appears to originally be a Scottish name).We haven't worked out yet how (or whether) this James fits into our family tree.But he was a craftsman in Dublin and he has a christian name consistent with the names of the family we are following.
We've traced our family back to a John Wiseheart born in Dublin about 1732.He was later a member of the Weavers Guild through service. If he were the eldest son of a Freeman, he could become a member of the Guild by birth rather than having to complete an apprenticeship and becoming a member through service. This may mean he had at least one older brother - An older brother who didn't become a Freeman of Dublin City, but was still alive (or John could have become a Freeman as the oldest surviving son).This suggests the older brother may have left Ireland. The only places to go really were England or the American colonies.
If our John had an older brother, its quite possible he was your John's father, James.Finding evidence to support this assertion will be another matter!!!
It doesn't explain how they are linked to James (aged at least 23 in 1703).Perhaps James was their grandfather?
The family we have been tracing follow the Scottish naming pattern of naming the first son after the paternal grandfather, the second after the materal grand father and the third after the father. The primary christian names are John and James. Their grandfather being James (aged at least 23 in 1703) would be consistent with the naming pattern.
So, as all the Wisehearts we've found in Ireland so far appear to be related, and given your ancestors names were James and John and they fit with the family we are tracing, it appears there is a good chance they have a common ancestor in Ireland around 1700!However whether we'll ever prove it is another matter!!!!
I'd be most interested to know more about your John (born 1748) and what you know of his father and grandfather.
I'd welcome an e-mail Tony.Wiseheart@mail.ccsu.nsw.gov.au with any information you can provide.