tammy, thank you for your quick response. my grandmother's parents names were david sands zufelt and ella bell bunch. do you have info on the bunches? we can't find them any where. also do you have info on ruby's husband's family? last name of crouse. we're lost on his paternal side. i'm hoping someone might have a trace of them. his mother's name was mary council caughman and father's name was thomas harrison crouse. they lived in colorado. please, if you have any info it would be greatly appreciated. you can e-mail me at my neighboor's address. my computer is on the blink. the address is email@example.com. david sands was the son of david henry zufelt. they moved to duncan az. where my grand mother ruby was born. she died here in UT about 6 years ago. she is buried with willard in the sandy city cemetary. i don't have all my info infront of me but i'm almost sure it's correct. if not, it is easily deciphered. thank you june sorensen.