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Count Of Vermandois Herbert@# * II DE VERMANDOIS (b. 884, d. 23 Feb 942/43)Herbert@# * II DE VERMANDOIS (son of Herbert@#* I DE VERMANDOIS and Beatrice@#* DE MORVOIS) was born 884 in Vermandois, Neustria, and died 23 Feb 942/43 in St. Quentin, Peronne, France.He married Adela-Hildebrante@*# CAPET, daughter of Robert#* I de FRANCE.
Notes for Herbert@# * II DE VERMANDOIS:
Herbert II, was the only son of Herbert I, Count of Vermandois and Soissons. From 902-915, Herbert carried on a war with Baldwin II, the Count of Flaners. Herbert and Hugh Magnus (Hugh the Great) joined forces to take Reims & Laon from King Louis IV in 940. After Herbert died in 943, Louis reclaimed Reims and Laon with the help of King Otto I of Germany.
Count of Vermandois, Troyes, Meaux, & Soissons.
Imprisoned Charles the Simple at Peronne.
Herbert married Adela-Hildebrante CAPET, daughter of King Of France Robert I FRANCE and Beatrice DE VERMANDOIS. (Adela-Hildebrante CAPET was born in 897 in Vermandois, France and died after 931 in St. Mary Overy's, Southwark.)
Herbert II of Vermandois
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Herbert II (884 – 23 February 943), Count of Vermandois and Count of Troyes, was the son of Herbert I of Vermandois.
He inherited the domain of his father and in 907, added to it the Saint de Soissons abbey. His marriage with Hildebrante of France (also known as Liégarde or Adèle) brought him the County of Meaux. In 918, he was also named Count of Mézerais and of the Véxin. With his cousin Bernard, Count of Beauvais and Senlis, he consituted a powerful group in the west of France, to the north and east of Paris. In 923, he imprisoned King Charles III in Chateau-Thierry, then in Péronne.
In 922, the Archbishop of Rheims, Seulf, called on Herbert II to reduce some of his vassals who were in rebellion against him. On the death of Seulf, in 925, with the help of King Rudolph, he acquired for his second son Hugh (then five years old) the archbishopric of Rheims, which had a large inheritance in France and Germany. In 926, on the death of Count Roger of Laon, Herbert demanded this County for Eudes, his eldest son. He settled there, initially against the will of King Rudolph and constructed a fortress there. Rudolph yielded to pressure to free king Charles III, whom Herbert still held in prison. In 930, Herbert took the castle of Vitry in Perthois at the expense of Boso, the brother of King Rudolph. Rudolph united his army with the army of Hugh, marquis of Neustria, and in 931, they entered Rheims and defeated Hugh, the son of Herbert. Artaud became the new archbishop of Reims. Herbert II then lost, in three years, Vitry, Laon, Chateau-Thierry, and Soissons. The intervention of his ally, Henry the Fowler, allowed him to restore his domains (except Rheims and Laon) in exchange for his submission to King Rudolph.
Later Herbert allied with Hugh the Great and William Longsword, duke of Normandy against King Louis IV, who allocated the County of Laon to Roger II, the son of Roger I, in 941. Herbert and Hugh the Great took back Rheims and captured Artaud. Hugh, the son of Herbert, was restored as archbishop. Again the mediation of the German King Otto I in Visé, near Liège, in 942 allowed for the normalization of the situation.
Death and legacy
Herbert II died on 23 February 943 without having succeeded in building the principality of which he dreamed. His succession was reconciled by Hugh the Great, maternal uncle of his children. It took place in 946 and led to an equitable distribution between the sons of Herbert II: Herbert III, Robert, Albert, and Hugh (his other son Eudes died before 946). As for his girls, Adela was married to Arnulf I, count of Flanders, Luitgarde (widow of William Longsword) was married to Theobald I, count of Blois, the first lieutenant of Hugh. She brought to Theobald Provins and domains in the Mézerais.
Family and children
By his marriage to Hildebrante of France (895 – 931), daughter of Robert I of France and Aelis he had:
Eudes of Vermandois, Count of Amiens and of Vienne, (910–946)
Hugh of Vermandois (died 962), Archbishop of Reims
Adele of Vermandois, married 934 Count Arnulf I of Flanders
Herbert "the Elder", Count of Meaux and of Troyes
Luitgarde of Vermandois (ca 914 – 9 February 978), married 943 Theobald I of Blois
Adalbert I of Vermandois
Robert of Vermandois, Count of Meaux and Troyes
More About Herbert@# * II DE VERMANDOIS:
Burial: St. Quentin, Peronne, France .
Degree: 32nd Great Grandfather from Leo Moss' side.
Children of Herbert@# * II DE VERMANDOIS and Adela-Hildebrante@*# CAPET are:
- +Alice Adele@#* dE VERMANDOIS, b. 910, Vermandois, Neustria, d. 10 Oct 960, Bruges, Aquitaine about.
- +Luitgarde* de Vermandois, b. 914, d. 09 Feb 977/78.
- Robert#* de Vermandois, b. Abt. 915.
- +Adalbert#* I the Pious de VERMANDOIS, b. 920, d. 09 Sep 987.