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Descendants of James Savage
1.James1 Savage was born Bet. 1790 - 1796 in New York.He married Elizabeth Abt. 1814.She was born Bet. 1789 - 1793 in New York City, or Dutchess county, New York, and died Aft. 1841 in Brooklyn, New York.
Notes for James Savage:
Nothing is known about our James Savage prior to 1830, he seems to first appear in this city ca. 1829-1830, which would place our Catherine Savage at about 7 years of age, which is not in place with the 1855 census statement, which of course can be wrong. That he was born in New York is shown by her death record, and the 1880 census records only, no other conclusive proof exists connecting this James with New York.Their was another man named James Savage who appears in the NYC directories from 1822 until 1831, a Mason, who lived first at 61 Bancker street, along with a man named John Savage, and then at 18 Prince street in 1831, he disappears from these records after this time, and it is not known whether this was the same man, for Prince street was in a different ward. This James for some reason does not appear in the census records in 1830, only our James appears? On 07 March, 1828 a James Savage married a woman named Sarah Bunton in the 8th street Presbyterian Church in NYC. It is not known whether this was our James, or the other James?The first time we find James in NYC was in the City Directory for 1830 living at 427 Washington Street, and 42 Vestry, in the 5th Ward of the City, and he worked as an Engineer.From 1831-1832 we find him still listed in the NYC directories as an Engineer, living at 42 Vestry street in the 5th ward.In thae 1832-1833 NYC directories we still see James listed. James seems to disappear from the NYC direcories after 1833, where he went is still unknown, possibly Brooklyn by this time? James Savage was living in NYC in the 1830 census, and who in the late 1830's had a wife named Elizabeth, she being a member of the New York Dutch Reformed church, along with James on 10 April, 1839. This author has conducted a search of this churches records, and has not found any other mention of this family, so it is not known whether this James, and Elizabeth were the same as found in Brooklyn from 1840 until 1849. But considering that this was the only family of this surname in NYC at that time, then the likely hood is good.In the 1830 New York City census he was listed in the 5th ward, page 323, working as an Engineer. He was listed at being between 30 and 40 years old, and his wife was also listed in this age bracket. He had two other men living in the household being between 20 and 30, whose identities are unknown to this author. Two girls were in the household under 5, and one was 5 to 10 years old. He was living next to a man named William Hoyt, while there is no known connection to the Hoyt family of Dutchess county, I mention it here just in case future historians can link such.James no longer appears in either the NYC, nor the Brooklyn census records for 1840, but his wife Elizabeth is listed in the Brooklyn 1840 census (See her biograpy for more). Elizabeth is not found in the 1840 NYC census, only the 1840 Brooklyn census.On 10 April, 1840 Elizabeth Savage, wife of James Savage was listed as being in full Communion, and cenfession in the Reformed Dutch Church in NYC. From 01 October, to 04 October, 1845 James Savage had uncollected mail being held in the Brooklyn Post office, as shown in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle Newspapers.He also had uncollected mail in this post office on 30 July, 1849. He does not reappear in these newspaper articles.James does not seem to have been listed in any of the New York City area census records for 1850, so he may have died just prior to this event.
Notes for Elizabeth:
As stated under Catherine Savage's biography, her name was probably Hermance, based on family stories, and Catherine naming one of her daughters Ellen Jane Hermance Mc'Canlis. In fact, that she named one of her daughters "Jane Hermance Savage" is a good indication that either she bore this surname, or that her mother may have had the surname of Hermance, with the possiblity that her first name was "Jane".But this is not proven, so I leave off her surname in this file, because her true identity is still not known.She was most likely from Dutchess county where the Hermance Iheermans) family lived for a long time. Of all the possible matches from the census records in either New York City, or Brooklyn in the 1830-1840 census records this is the only match found in both census records. Elizabeth lived in the 5th Ward in Brooklyn, in 1840 as Elizabeth Savage. While it is not proven that this woman was the mother of Catherine, it is very possible given the fact that Catherine's first born daughter carried the name of Elizabeth Mc'Canlis. This daughter would have been named for her maternal grandmother Elizabeth, or so it would seem. After 1840 Elizabeth seems to disappear from Brooklyn records, so she may have died shortly after this date, or moved somewhere else. It is very plausible that Catherine Savage could have met her husband Thomas Mc'Canlis in Brooklyn, for Thomas most likely lived in this area, based on family letters in one branch of the Mc'Candless family of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, from 1839 until at least 1844 or so, when he most likely moved to New York City, where he starts to appear in the 1845 New York City Directories for the first time. However, there seems to be no mention of Thomas Mc'Canlis in either the New York City, nor the Brooklyn census for 1840, and he does not appear in either the Brooklyn City Directories for 1840, nor the first few years of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle Newspaper. So this is purely conjecture at this time.It is this author's belief that Elizabeth is most likely the mother of Catherine, and that her husband's name is not known, or could have been Jacob (James).A thorough search of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle Newspaper from 1841-1850 does not show Elizabeth, however, it does show her daughter Jane Hermance Savage in the 1844, and her husband James from 1845-1849, when he to disappears, neither James, nor Elizabeth appear in the 1850 Brooklyn census records.
Children of James Savage and Elizabeth are:
2 | i. | N.........2 Savage, born Bet. 1815 - 1820 in Brooklyn, New York. | ||
3 | ii. | Catherine Savage1,2,3,4, born Bet. May 01, 1822 - April 29, 1823 in Matteawan, Fishkill,DutchessCounty, NewYork; died April 30, 1890 in Brooklyn,NewYork.She married Thomas Mc'Canlis5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 Abt. 1844 in New YorkCity; born October 31, 1816 in Ballymena,Antrim,Ireland; died March 07, 1895 in New YorkCity. |
More About Catherine Savage: Cause of Death: Peretonitis Medical Information: Due to Diabetes Mellitius. |
More About Thomas Mc'Canlis: Cause of Death: General Senility Medical Information: Nephritis Coma |
4 | iii. | Jane Hermance Savage, born Bet. 1825 - 1830 in Brooklyn, New York. |
Notes for Jane Hermance Savage: Jane appears in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle Newspaper on 01 March, 1844, as has letters unclaimed in the Brooklyn Post Office. |
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