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Samuel Williams (d. date unknown)Samuel Williams was born in Possibly Samuel or Robert Williams in Wales, and died date unknown in Probably Springfield, NJ.
Notes for Samuel Williams:
Assignment of Children's Names
This pattern was not always followed exactly, but most usually kept to the pattern for the first three children.
1st son after the father's father
2nd son after the mother's father
3rd son after the father
4th son after the father's eldest brother
5th son after the mother's eldest brother
1st daughter after the mother's mother
2nd daughter after the father's mother
3rd daughter after the other
4th daughter after the mother's eldest sister
5th daughter after the father's eldest sister
If this is true, then Guin. Williams' father's name was Charles Williams.However, Elias' father's name was Moses and his grandfather was William.So, Edward and Charles appear to have come from Guin.'s side of the family, maybe her father and her grandfather.
Hello Sue Titus Mickley,
I am pleased to inform you that I have received the following report from our research consultant at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City:
Research Report to client:
completed 8 Nov 2006
My goal in this research project was to continue to look for the parents of Gwin Williams Hand by searching the land records of Orange County, New York for 2 hours, and Essex County, New Jersey records for 2 hours.I was unable to find evidence of Gwin's parents, but as before, there are a few likely candidates.
Because Williams is such a common name, especially in a community of Welsh immigrants, it is impossible to look up every Williams record within the time restraints given.The only efficient way to proceed is to exhaust every record involving Gwin herself to look for clues to her parents.Unfortunately, because of her status as a woman and her early marriage, she does not show up in Orange or Essex County records, except as Elias Hand's wife in the Orange County land deeds, as mentioned in my first report.
I have assumed from the start that the Quaker marriage record you have for Gwin and Elias in 1811 was from Orange County, New York, but I have never specifically asked.If it is not, and you desire further research, please let me know.
I started by searching through Orange County land deeds:
Deeds, 1703-1900 ; Index to deeds, 1703-1965, Orange County (New York). County Clerk , FHL Film # 826917.Because there was no reference to Gwin in the Williams records, I looked at all the Williams and where they were from.I identified two groups: one in Newburgh, and one in Cornwall. Most Williams were in Newburgh.The two in Cornwall were Richard and James.As before, I really suspect Richard is Gwin's father based on the 1800 census (had a daughter Gwin's age), and on process of elimination based on land and probate records.But, as yet there is no proof.None of Richard & James's records mentioned the land that Gwin and Elias sold in 1826.
I also searched the following Orange County records:
Early Orange county wills, two volumes in one, 1731-1830, Orange County Genealogical Society (Goshen, New York) , FHL Book # 974.731 R2o
Genealogical records : manuscript entries of births, deaths and marriages, taken from family Bibles, 1581-1917, edited by Jeannie F.J. Robison and Henrietta C. Bartlett
Genealogical and family history of southern New York and the Hudson River Valley : a record of the achievements of her people in the making of a common- wealth and the building of a nation , compiled under the editorial supervision of Cuyler Reynolds, FHL Book # 974.7 D3r
The Cornwall Archives : index to the records of the the Cornwall Central School District; the Village of Cornwall-on-Hudson; the Town of Cornwall, Cornwall (New York). Archives , Cornwall Central School District (New York) , FHL Book # 974.731/C1 A3c
I searched the following Essex County, New Jersey records, but with no success:
Probate records, 1794-1902, New Jersey. Surrogate's Court (Essex), FHL Film # 913279.
Index of wills, inventories, etc. in the office of the Secretary of State prior to 1901, New Jersey. Secretary of State , FHL Film #5454437.
Deeds, 1729-1838, Essex County (New Jersey). County Clerk, FHL Film # 947754
Mortgages, 1777-1861; index, 1765-1909, Essex County (New Jersey). County Clerk , FHL Film # 913091.
The municipalities of Essex County, New Jersey, 1666-1924, edited by Joseph Fulford Folsom, Benedict Fitzpatrick, Edwin P. Conklin, FHL Book # 974.931 H2f
History of the Oranges, in Essex County, N. J., from 1666 to 1806, by Stephen Wickes, FHL Book # 974.931 H2ws
The 1810 census shows two Elias Hands: one in Suffolk County, NY, and the other in Columbia County, NY, with none in New Jersey.I know the Elias in Suffolk County, NY continues to be there in later censuses when your Elias stays in Orange County, NY, so I wondered if yours was the one in Columbia County.The Columbia County Elias was married with 2 children, which does not align with your records.Not knowing for sure which county he and Gwin were married in, I searched Columbia County wills, but did not find anything of interest:
Abstract of wills of Columbia County, New York, 1796-1851, compiled and typed by Gertrude Audrey Barber, FHL Book # 974.739 S2ba.
I also considered that Gwin's father may have served in the War of 1812 and searched these records:
Index to old wars pension files, 1815-1926, transcribed by Virgil D. White, FHL Book # 973 M22wh
Index to US military pension applications of remarried widows for service between 1812 and 1911, transcribed by Virgil D. White , FHL Book # 973 M22wim
*Index to War of 1812 pension files, transcribed by Virgil D. White, FHL Book # 973 M22i
Index to volunteer soldiers in Indian Wars and disturbances, 1815-1858, transcribed by Virgil D. White, FHL Book # 973 M22wiv.
*I did find here a reference for a Richard Williams with wife Sophia, who served in Capt. Cyrus Towbridge's Company in the New York militia (WC-7160), but no county was listed, and time was short.You may want to order a copy of the pension file from the national archives.
With another 4 hours, I would return to the land records involving Gwin and Elias in Orange County, and look through them for clues to her family.I could also check Passaic County, NJ records, since it lies between Orange and Essex Counties. Thank you.
The cost of this research is $225.00 (US DOLLARS). All documents will be mailed to you soon.
The cost of the further research recommended would be$225.00(US DOLLARS) and as always this includes the cost of all photocopies and mailing costs.
As we are obliged to pay a researcher for the research conducted regardless of the result, the quoted fee will be payable whether or not we are successful in obtaining the information.
Please let me know if you wish to proceed.
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Children of Samuel Williams are:
- +Guin. or Gwin. Williams, b. December 20, 1789, Wales, d. November 08, 1863, Cornwall-on-Hudson, Orange County, NY.