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Johannes Casper (Sr) Schild Schell (b. Jan 01, 1716, d. Apr 10, 1806)Johannes Casper (Sr) Schild Schell (son of Peter "Petro" Schild(t) and Catharina Pung)502, 503, 504, 505, 506, 506, 506 was born Jan 01, 1716 in Ettringen, Rheinland Prussia, Deutschland (Germany)507, 508, and died Apr 10, 1806 in Lincolnton, Lincoln Co., North Carolina.He married Anna Catharina Gertrude Bott on Abt. 1749 in Lancaster, Pennsylvania509.
Notes for Johannes Casper (Sr) Schild Schell:
His father was Petro Schild born ABT 1688 at Ettringen, Rheinland, Prussia.Petro married Catharina Pung M: ABT 1708 at Ettringen, Rheinland, Prussia.He died 19 April 1724 at Ettringen, Rheinland, Prussia.Catharina was born ABT 1690 at Ettringen, Rheinland, Prussia.They had several children but Johannes Casper Shell was the only one who did not go by Schild. End of theory.
The archives of the Waterschout, including any passenger lists they may have contained, were destroyed during World War II. The archives of the Holland-Amerika Lijn, which contain registers of passengers from 1900 onwards, are deposited in the
Robert Fruinstraat 52
NL-3021 XE Rotterdam
The Family History Library in Salt Lake City has microfiche copies of these lists for 3 May 1900-26 April 1940(6109126-6109166, fiche 1-781; 6109167-6109217, fiche 1-272).
Lancaster, PA - 1/9/1748 - A warrant was issued for 100 A in Germany Twp. (now Adams County); when the survey was made it was found that the warrant interfered with an earlier survey.The land was denied to Casper.
Lancaster Co., PA, DB G:59 - 8/21/1761 - Caspar Shell and wife Catherine of Donegal Twp., make a mortgage to John Wistar for 275 A on the S.E. side of Conewaga Creek.
Lancaster Co., PA, DB H:388 - 4/4/1768 - John Wistar through Attorney Emanuel Carpenter acknowledged Mortgage satisfied and title give.
Lancaster Co., PA, DB M:390 - 4/22/1768 - Caspar Shell and wife Catherine of Donegal Twp. release 100 A adjacent. Conewaga Creek, land intended to be granted by Caspar Shell to Jacob Lime (part of 261 A patented 8/20/1761 to Caspar Shell.)
Between 4/22/1768 and 7/29/1770 Caspar moved to Hampton Twp. (now Cumberland Co)., of Lancaster Co., where daughter Anna Magdalen's baptismal certificate show she was born.
By May 1772 he was in Hagerstown, MD where Caspar, Jr., was born and remained there through 1775 when son Carl Frederick was baptized.He appears in the Burke Co., North Carolina (now CTC, NC) on 1778 land entry records.
Maybe I can shed some light on the background of Schell family origins. I live in Germany and I was born in the city of Bonn (Rhineland). Our family is descending from a Schell family, of which came one founding member of a small brotherhood of fishermen, who were licensed to fish in the area of the river Sieg and a small section of the river Rhine near the city of Bonn.This brotherhood, was founded more than 850 (!) years ago in this place, and it still exists today. This license was granted by the landlords, in this case a landlady, the head of a nun's convent nearby and it has been recogized ever since by the changing civilian rulers and systems. This well documented. A gorgeous Roman church, which was part of this monastery, still exists today and can be visited.According to the original statutes only the legitimate) male descendants of the founding families were allowed to become members of the brotherhood, and this tradition is followed to this day, even though it has become a topic of dispute recently, of course. Today several hundred Schell descendants are on record with this brotherhood, some assemble each January for their annual convent (together with the descendants of the other five families which were among the founders), as demanded in the original statues of their old Brotherhood of Fishermen. As tradition demands, every member is offered a bottle of dry wine and a breadroll of a certain kind at this meeting, called the "Geding".Sometime in the historic documents a coat of arms like emblem representing the Schell "tribe" from the Brotherhood of Fishermen appeared, which shows an illustration of a small round bell, similar to those used on a harlekin dress. This is logical in so far, as in German as spoken in the Rhineland the word "Schell(e)" means a (small) bell.The region where this happened is just around 60 (by land) or 120 miles (by river) from the Dutch border. So it might well be that this Casper (Caspar?) Schell came from Holland to the USA, but that his family origins where further south in Germany, in this area near the city of Bonn.While this age-old settlement of Schell name bearers is well documented, before the 12th century, of course, their origins seem to be in the dark.I know of another source for Schell name bearers which is in Hugary. Although the Hungarian language demands another way of spelling of the name, like "Szell" -the pronounciation is identical, "shell". As is known, quite often the spelling of a name changed in order to accomodate the pronounciation in the environment where it was used. So, this might also be a link. It is open to speculation, if imigrants whose name was pronouced like Schell arrived in the Rhineland from far away Hungary sometime before he 12th century, or if they were local settlers who received their name when this part of the country got visited by the christian missionaries from Ireland, which happend just around 200 years earlier. Who knows.If more info is wanted about this sensationally old Brotherhood of Fishermen, please get in touch, and I shall try to get more details.
Paul E. Schell
I read the message from Paul E. Schell with much interest. Up until that point, the oldest Schell names that I had found in Europe were from Zug, Switerland. See the web page below:
Note that several Kaspar Schell names begin occurring shortly after the Canton of Zug was formed. This also occurred shortly after the two Schellenberg castles in Lichtenstein were destroyed by the Hapsburgs. I had speculated that the Schell's in Zug had migrated up the valley from Lichtenstein, and had taken on the Schell name from their origin. I am a direct descendent of J. Caspar Schell, and my family tradition has been that he was Holland Dutch. His great grandson who lived to be over 100 years old told me this in 1947. My further speculation was that since Switerland and Holland were Calvinists countries, a natural migration in that direction might have occurred, particularly after Holland became free in the 1650's. J. Caspar Schell was known to be protestant. I realize that his true origin may never benresolved. I am very much aware of the border changes that were occurring in the 1600 and 1700's, and how this confuses the issue. However, the article by Paul Schell is fascinating, and I am very interested in knowing more about the early Schell's he described. They pre-date the Zug Schells. I need to fit this into my speculation. By the way, I visited the Schellengberg castles in 1987. If I had been asked to name them, my modern day choice would have been the same. Neu Schellenberg was at the top of the hill with pasture land surrounding it. Cattle with ringing cow bells grazed around the entire perimeter, forming a German Schellen (ring of bells) around the top of the small mountain(berg). This is a subject in which I am very much interested. Please feel free to email me at the following address:
Pennsylvania Foreign Oaths of Allegiance
Foreigners who took oath of allegiance to Pennsylvania between 1777-89
Name: Johann Casper Schell,
Ship: ROBERT AND ALICE
Captain: MARTLRY CUSACK
Date: SEPT. 24, 1742
This database lists the names of immigrants who took the oath of allegiance to the province and state of Pennsylvania from 1727-1775. All males over sixteen years of age were obliged to take this oath and declaration, as soon after their arrival as possible. Taking an oath of allegiance was a process undergone during early colonial emigration. In this oath, immigrants declared they would be faithful to King George II.
Egle, William Henry. Names Of Foreigners Who Took The Oath Of Allegiance To The Province And State Of Pennsylvania, 1727-1775, With The Foreign Arrivals, 1786-1808. Harrisburg, PA : E. K. Meyers, 1892.
Database: U.S. House of Representative Private Claims, Vol. 3
Nature of Claim:Pension for revolutionary disabilities
Manner Brought:Rep. of Secretary War
Referred to Committee:Select
Congress Date:09 Jun 1794
Report:Res. to refer to Sec. War
Date:26 May 1794
[Here, the movie "God's Frontiersmen" describe a rather severe ocean voyage. This voyage is so severe that you may think it was extremely atypical. Not true. The records left by the Palatines have similar references to bad ocean voyages, and even in the best of trips, which lasted 2 to 3 weeks; the ships were overloaded with people, the rations were short or just barely enough, the food was vermin ridden, and the water was stagnant and scummy.] The ship "Sully" set sail for PA on the 31st of May and at first was blown off course northward. The weather turned very cold and icebergs were sighted. By the 10th of Aug. the weather had turned very warm and their rations were down to 1 1/2# of bread per passenger per week. 2 weeks later, the ration was cut even further. In the next 12 days, they were reduced to 2 biscuits per week. Hunger and thirst reduced them to shadows. Many killed themselves by drinking salt water or their own urine. They were saved only by a providential rain. On Sept. 2, they finally saw land. Their journey had lasted 14 weeks or 3 1/2 months. [The film didn't bring this out, but the Palatines tell of the disembarkation process at their destination. First the ones who could pay full price were allowed to pay and get off the boat. Next the healthy ones were sold to their new masters for the full fee. Then unhealthy ones were sold at auction. This process often took several weeks. If one of the family died, the rest of the family members were held accountable for passage fees of the deceased.] However, like the Germans the Ulster men thought they had found the promised land.
Lincoln Co., NC Wills: 4/2/1804 - Caspar Shell wills to Charles Frederick Shell $50 ontronery and after that to have an equal share with brothers and sisters; Secondly to Mary Conrad, one bedstead bed, one cow and calf and a spinning wheel and then for to fall an equal share with my children (and know share upon her mothers side.)Executors:. Henry Shell and Christian Hawn (Anna's husband).Note: There is no list of heirs in th4e estate file and no known complete record found to date.By bits and pieces was can ascertain who they are.
Johannes was a farmer and a Lutheran.
Long before there were any settlements in Frederick County, parties of Germans passed through it from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, to seek homes in Virginia. The principal route was over a pack horse or Indian road that crossed the present Pennsylvania counties of York and Adams to the Monocracy where it passed into Maryland. Once in Maryland, the road passed through Crampton's
Gap and crossed the Potomac at several fords. The first German settlement in Frederick County was as early as 1729 in the village of Monocracy, which was the first village beyond the lower part of Montgomery County in Western Maryland .Aus Johann Schild, Sohn von Peter Schild wurde Johann Caspa r Schell.
Er kam am 24. September 1742 mit dem Schiff "Robert und Alice" nach Philadelphia.Er lies sich bald darauf in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, nieder , wo er heiratete und lebte bis 1768.Zu diesem Zeitpunkt zog er mit seiner Familie nach Fredrick Country, Maryland, und lebte dort bis etwa 1779. Er lie ß sich dann in Lincoln, North Carolina, nieder, wo er dan n auch starb.Johannes war Farmer und lutherischen Glaubens.
Thanks to Strassburger and Hinke, we have photocopies of the original lists which give the names of passengers. List 95C is a list of the takers of the oath of abjuration from the ship Robert and Alice in 1742. It contains the name, Johann Caspar Schell. There is NO umlaut on this name although the umlaut is used on the names of Filippus Borgeres (first name on the list) and Fridrich Muller(10th name). The "Sch" may be ill defined, but is so nearly identical to the "Sch" in the names Johann Jacob Schmitt (two above Caspar) and Dauvit Schmitt (one below) that I am moved to believe that thesenames were written by the same person, perhaps a clerk. They may not be signatures after all.
More About Johannes Casper (Sr) Schild Schell:
Arrival: 1742, Pennsylvania.510
Burial: 1806, Lincolnton, Lincoln Co., North Carolina.
Christening: 1716, Ettringen, Rp, Deutschland.511
Immigration: Sep 24, 1742, Robert & Alice to King of Prussia, PA Philadelphia.
Military service: Served in Revolutionary War.512
Naturalization: Apr 10, 1767, Donegal Twp., Lancaster Co., PA.512
Record Change: Feb 25, 2002513
Residence 1: Aug 21, 1761, Casper & wife Catherine of Donegal Twp...see notes.514
Residence 2: Philadelphia County, PA.515
Residence 3: Philadelphia County, PA.515
Residence 4: Philadelphia County, PA.515
Tax List: 1757, Donegal Twp., Lancaster Co., PA (Caspar Shell).516
URL Link: Feb 1999, http://home.rhein-zeitung.de/~alipskey/goertzprussia.htm.516
Web Site: Schild line I got from homepage---http://home.t-online.de/home/bernd.klein.ettringen/dat46.html#19.
More About Johannes Casper (Sr) Schild Schell and Anna Catharina Gertrude Bott:
Marriage: Abt. 1749, Lancaster, Pennsylvania.517
Record Change: Nov 04, 2001518
Single 1: Bet. Sep 24, 1747 - 1749, Lancaster County, PA.
Single 2: Bet. 1748 - 1749, Berks County, PA.519
Children of Johannes Casper (Sr) Schild Schell and Anna Catharina Gertrude Bott are:
- +Johannes Shell / Schell, b. Jan 06, 1750, Lancaster, Pennsylvania520, d. Nov 17, 1796, Burke, North Carolina520.
- +Anna Maria Shell / Schell, b. Apr 30, 1750, Lancaster, Pennsyvania520, d. Abt. 1791520.
- +Henry Shell / Schell, b. 1755, Lancaster, Pennsylvania520, d. Abt. 1853520.
- Elizabeth Shell / Schell, b. Abt. 1759, Lancaster Co., PA521,d., KY521.
- +Michael Shell / Schell, b. 1759, Lancaster, Pennsylvania522, d. Dec 04, 1816, Cape Girardeau, Missouri522.
- Sarah Shell / Schell, b. Abt. 1761522, d. Abt. 1785522.
- +Mary Catherina Shell / Schell, b. Abt. 1764, Lancaster Co., PA523, d. Aft. Jul 1830, Madison Co., MO523.
- Gertrude Shell / Schell, b. Nov 14, 1766, Lancaster, Pennsylvania524, d. WFT Est. 1794-1860524.
- +Anna Magdalena Shell / Schell, b. Jun 29, 1770, York Co., PA525, d. Jul 27, 1854, Catawba Co., North Carolina525.
- +Casper Shell / Schell, Jr, b. May 27, 1772, Hagerstown, Washington, Maryland526, d. Dec 1847, Cape Girardeau, Missouri526.
- +Charles Frederick Shell / Schell, b. Nov 25, 1774, Hagerstown, Washington Co., MD527, d. Oct 09, 1851, Weston Twp., Platte Co., MO527.
- +Benjamin Shell / Schell, b. Dec 25, 1780, Lincoln Cty, NC527, d. Mar 24, 1835, Cape Girardeau, MO527.